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Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by George777, Feb 7, 2001.

  1. George777

    George777 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Alabama
    Messages: 305

    Need some advice on aeration. I'm trying to figure if it is best to apply fert and then aerate. I live in the south and also wonder when is the best times to aerate. I'm thinking in late march & September.
    I'm also nervous about infesting someones turf with weeds. If I notice weeds in the turf should I wait to aerate?
    thank you
  2. Evan528

    Evan528 LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,144

    Im not firmiliar with souther grasses so i cant anser when the best time to aerate down is. I can tell you that if the lawn has a good amount a weeds it would be a good i dea to spray a broad leaf herbicide to take care of the weeds beofre aerating. Once the weeds are dead you can aerate, over seed and put down a starter fertilizer. This way the seed will fill in all the areas that were infested by weeds.
  3. kutnkru

    kutnkru LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,662

    We always aerate and power rake the lawns prior to the first application of pre-emergents in the spring. We usually rotate aerations one year and p-r's the next.

    As far as aeration in the early fall I would recommend sometime between the middle of september and the middle of october. Personally I prefer to do my overseeding this time of year.

    If you notice weeds in the turf I would "highly recommend" to your clients the springtime aearations so that whatever program you are using will quickly be reached and absorbed by the rootzone.

    Hope this helps.

  4. George777

    George777 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Alabama
    Messages: 305

    I'm not lisenced to apply pre/post emergence yet, I'm told that I can apply fert. If fact when I got my business lisence I was told I can apply anything that a customer could purchase at home depot, lowes or any store. I must admit I find this hard to believe.
    i have a customer who wants his lawn aerated in March. I'm hoping he does not have a problem with weeds. I would hate to infest his lawn.
  5. kutnkru

    kutnkru LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,662

    I have heard thru the grapevine that if you are applying it for the customer and not being compensated for your time its okay. The catch seems to be it has to be done when your not there for mowing or to perform any services you are compensated for.

    I would advise against this practice. You are opening up a can of worms that is not worth the headaches associated with the State/DEC.

    As a contactor to meet the needs of your clients you do have the right to sub-contract this work out. I strongly believe that it is in both parties best interests for you to get your certification.

    We have elinmanted the finger pointing of who's done what wrong the fert co. or the mowing crews this way. Customers will also like knowinbg that they are dealing with a "one-stop-shop".

    Just my .02
  6. George, if you are worried about transferring weed seeds from other lawns, just be sure to clean your equipment between jobs. Sometimes lawns become weed infested because the ground is too tight for the grass to compete with the weeds. Aerating will help the lawn to get back to a healthy balance. You can aerate in the spring in the South, but you can also do it in the fall. If you do it in the fall be sure to sell an overseeding as a extra job, this way you will improve the lawn by thickening it up with new healthy grass.

    I do the aerating and fertilizing usually on the same day. I am there already to do one job, the fertilizing takes less time than the aerating.
  7. George777

    George777 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Alabama
    Messages: 305

    thank you all for your input. Kris, I think your right. I've got the books from my extension office and the next test in in March. It seems like this test to apply herb is pretty tough.
    Any tips on how to study for that rascal?
  8. Greenman2ooo

    Greenman2ooo Banned
    Messages: 176


    Someone is giving you bad information. Contact your local department of agriculture<--- a federal agency. Fertilizers are regulated by the federal government, contrary to popular belief. It is against federal law to apply even fertilizers if it is done FOR HIRE. That means you will get your butt fined if you are caught doing so.

    If you are unwilling to spend the small amount of time it takes to get certified, you really should just stick with what you already do. That's the nice way of saying it. :) I don't want you to think I'm hounding you, I just want to make sure you don't let someone mislead you into thinking something that could cost you thousands of dollars is "alright."

    I like the fact you said you are not licensed, "yet!" Good luck!

  9. kutnkru

    kutnkru LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,662

    I basically studied a chapter a night and then took a couple of nights off. Then I went back thru it again and again in this fashion. However if you are like my friend she studied the weekend before by reading thru it twice and then aced the test with a friggin 98. She makes me nautious - LOL. I hate people who can retain vast knowledge at the drop of a hat.

  10. Garry

    Garry LawnSite Member
    Messages: 184

    By far the most important tool the landscape specialist can own is his knowledge of how and why, he does what he does. Complete understanding of the products you use is now your *job*. We, the Licenced pesticide community pay fees, insurance, and other expences to maintain our *privilege*. If you want to play this game, remember, it takes some money to make some money.

    G. William Lamar

    Lamar Landscape Science & Treatments Inc.

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