All Kitty Litter Equal???

Discussion in 'Organic Lawn Care' started by Smallaxe, Jun 6, 2014.

  1. Ditta&Sons

    Ditta&Sons LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,491

    cant you just put some gravel in the bottom of the pots like everyone else? And i hope youre not using real earth in a pot, and instead, using potting soil
  2. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    Potting mixes either have too much sand or allow water to pass through without much holding capacity... I use finished compost here at home for outdoor pots, but they don't hold water that well either...
    I've started with compost and clay based kitty litter in some other pots and will see if that helps...

    It is good to know that Turface was fired to prevent or slow degradation... Reminds me of Terra Preta... :)
  3. lilmarvin4064

    lilmarvin4064 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 757

    well, I guess Duke University, Michigan State University, Mississippi State University, Purdue University, Ohio State University, University of Missouri Turf Research Center, Washington State University, Syngenta, and NASA are all drinking the same Kool-Aid.

    Yes, the larger pellet sizes will hold water AND drain. Its not that complicated. It will permanently improve any soil type. It will increase the water holding capacity in sandy soils, and will improve drainage and pore space in clay soils. It won't decompose like peat moss or compost. It won't swell and photodegrade like co-polymer gel. Its heavier than perlite and vermiculite but much less expensive and can replace both products. It does not float.

    The maximum recommended application rate per 1000 sqft of turf for complete renovation is 1.25 pallets, not 100. is this a lot? sure. A progressive aproach is more common - aeration, topdress, drag.
    For small areas with heavy clay soils it makes sense. Commerical sites where people are constantly walking across turf, where there should be a sidewalk but there isn't (shorcuts). I have seen work well there, and also in exessively damp areas with poor drainage where re-encroaching moss is a problem.
  4. Skipster

    Skipster LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,086

    I've been on faculty a two of those schools you've listed and I've given invited guest lectures on turfgrass soils at all but one of the schools you mentioned (Duke doesn't have a turfgrass science program). Neither I nor any of the faculty at any of those fine programs recommend Turface for anything other than the narrow and very specific uses I described.

    Sorry that the research data and reality of the product have hurt your feelings. It's just a product. don't get your blood pressure up over it.

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