Another first for us.

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by PerfiCut L&L, Feb 21, 2008.

  1. PerfiCut L&L

    PerfiCut L&L LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 458

    Seems like everytime we turn around, we're running into firsts. Sometimes I wish we would just get a plain old driveway or something.

    Owner just moved into this beach house in august. The home sits 10' above the beach which has a large wall with stairs leading to/from a deck (if you want to call it that). Obviously the wall has been around some time, and has had atleast one temperary fix. Unfortunately at this time it is no longer stable nor safe.

    The idea is to tear out the old and bring in the new. He wants to keep the same basic design. The deck will be replaced with composite boards. A new handrail installed and possibly some lighting.

    Its difficult to tell from the pics, but the wall is back filled from the beach up to a height of approx 5'. The remaining 5' is a free standing wall, since there is a storage room under the deck, which he wants to keep. The photos do not really show it well, but the beach is roughly 20' x 60'.

    This would be first project of this nature for us. Getting equipment from the street to the work area will not be a problem, but chosing the right equipment may be. What are your thoughts on something like this?

    Strait On Look
    From the Top
    Left Side Looking at Storage Room Entrance
    Right Side Wall & Steps looks like a do it yourselfer effort at re-enforcing the wall. A closer look inside the storage room reviels a 15' rod about 1/4" diameter ancored into the dirt with a cinder block. Half of which have rusted and snapped off.
    Front right side & neighbors wall
    Closer Look At Property line/wall
    This could be a problem
  2. yardmanlee

    yardmanlee LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 898

    looks like a challange, dose he want some type of retaining wall, w/ steps ?
  3. PatriotLandscape

    PatriotLandscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    from MA
    Messages: 1,209

    are you going to use a srw or cmu?
  4. wallzwallz

    wallzwallz LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 361

    Have you looked into the necessary permits? around here anything with in 100 feet of water requires special permits and lots of hoops to jump thru.
  5. PerfiCut L&L

    PerfiCut L&L LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 458

    Were looking at a SRW with steps. As for the permits, yes, there are a few extra steps that have to be taken but usually not a big deal.
  6. forestfireguy

    forestfireguy LawnSite Senior Member
    from nj
    Messages: 601

    That looks like a challenging job for sure........Be sure you check inot the DEP for permits also, as mentioned before the proximity to the water may complicate things for you, it does for us working on lake shores where we do lots of "seawalls"........
  7. mrusk

    mrusk LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,260

    SRW is not the way to go. For one, you will loose that storage room. So cmu for the wall and stone it. With the cmu you will keep the storage room. Then you can have your deck joist sit right on top of the wall. I'd build those stairs out of wood. It will be 10x the price to build that stair case out of block vs wood.

    If you are replacing the railroad tie wall that looks decent also, you could do srw there. But where there is cmu now, i'd replace with cmu.

    STRINGALATION LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 777

    what is a CMU ?
  9. AceFinish

    AceFinish LawnSite Member
    Messages: 98

    I would get an excavator with a bucket and a thumb and a skid steer. Plus a big dumpster
  10. RockSet N' Grade

    RockSet N' Grade LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,454

    Do you use "redi-rock" concrete blocks in your area? That little job is a perfect candidate for those 1,500 lb rascals.

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