Any advice for permanently repairing this yard

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by Doughertylawncare, Apr 8, 2020.

  1. Doughertylawncare

    Doughertylawncare LawnSite Member
    Messages: 9

    Need advice on fixing this lawn. I did a soil test... ph is fine. Phosphorus very deficient, everything else is fine.
    My plan is to aggressively aerate the lawn followed by heavy overseeding. Then I am going to apply a thing layer of compost followed by more seed. Anything else I should do?

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  2. Mike NY

    Mike NY LawnSite Member
    from NY.
    Messages: 169

    Starter fertilizer with phos seems like a no brainer. Do what you can to let in more sunlight.
     
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  3. 71GTX

    71GTX LawnSite Senior Member
    from CT.
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    Hold off till Fall with less crabgrass broadleaf pressure.
     
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    Doughertylawncare

    Doughertylawncare LawnSite Member
    Messages: 9

    I agree, tried to tell him last fall, he didn’t listen and wants it done now...‍♂️
     
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    Doughertylawncare

    Doughertylawncare LawnSite Member
    Messages: 9

    Yea I’ll be putting some starter fert down as well, he had the trees thinned out a year or two ago. I’m going to use a lot of seed, shade and sun mix, the trick is going to be getting the roots to establish. The lack of phosphorus isnt helping. I did tell him this in the fall but he wants it done now.
     
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  6. 71GTX

    71GTX LawnSite Senior Member
    from CT.
    Messages: 713

    Then apply mesotrione or tupersan pre emergent.
     
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  7. hort101

    hort101 LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from S.E. New England
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    Did he have fungus or other issues last year?
     
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  8. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    This appears to be a shade problem. No cure for this except more sunlight. Naturally, you want to use the best shade seed blend you can find, a premium fine fescue blend. Use plenty of seed--do not skimp. However--no "shade and sun mix"--too much rye. Explain to Ms Customer that ryegrass can be included for quick response--however rye is not a shade grass--it will crowd out the creeping red fescue, and then seldom last through the summer. Best to avoid rye--even though the shade grasses will be a few days slower to germinate.

    Corn yes--however grass does not need much phosphorus--a soil test of 20 to 30 parts per million is fine. Phosphorus fertilizers on turf have been outlawed in Michigan, Minnesota and near the Chesapeake Bay. Our grass still looks fine. OK for starter fertilizer in most states.

    In the long run--if the sun is less than 4 hours per day--it would be best to use a ground cover: Bark--or--Ajuga, myrtle, pachysandra, ivy, lamium or local favorites, accented with hosta, primrose and euonymous.

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    Be sure there is good irrigation to carry the grass through the hot spells and in late summer when the tree roots pull out massive amounts of soil moisture.
     
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    Doughertylawncare

    Doughertylawncare LawnSite Member
    Messages: 9

    Also... anyone think straw is necessary?
     
  10. phasthound

    phasthound LawnSite Fanatic
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    Regarding the title of this thread, there is no such thing as a permanent repair for any lawn except maybe synthetic turf.
    Lawn care is a continuing process, not an event. Unfortunately, many homeowners don't understand this.
     

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