Before you guys jump on me for asking this... here is the deal. Everyone knows where I stand on Z's. I own Exmark & Hustler. I however have a buddy that is looking to buy his first Z and even after all my preaching, he has come down to trying to decide between the Lesco Viper and a Cub Cadet Commercial Z. Both are pretty much the same. 60" 25hp Lesco is 6200.00 and Cub is about $500 more. Any input I can pass along? I use to have a few Lesco w/b and never had any issues with them. Just wondering about the Cubs. My advice to him at this point would be to go with the Lesco since They have been around longer. Thanks for the input.