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Anyone Do Code Enforcement for Homeowners Associations?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by HARRIS Property Management, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. HARRIS Property Management

    HARRIS Property Management LawnSite Member
    Messages: 135

    Im working on a bid for a Homeowners Association (Entrance, common areas, etc) and I had a request to also place a bid for code enforcement. Consist of doing a routine drive thru (can be while on lawn route) and checking for any homes out of compliance for neighborhood covenants. As well as addressing issue, etc. Has anyone encountered this and how has it worked out for you if you have. Any thoughts on how to place a figure on this? I was thinking of something like $10 to $15 per house in the neighborhood per month. ANy suggestions welcomed.
  2. JimLewis

    JimLewis LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,872

    $10-$15 per home per month? Seriously??? So if there are 50 homes in the subdivision you're going to charge between $500-$750 per month to do an occasional drive-by and see who isn't mowing their lawn or pulling their weeds??

    Seems a little excessive to me. I'd probably just add $50-$100 per month, at most. I'd have to see the subdivision to say for sure. But that's pretty freakin' easy.

    Besides, this shouldn't be the LCOs work. Some HOA is trying to pawn their responsibilities off on you. Most HOAs work on a complaint-driven process. That is, they rely on the homeowners to rat each other out. Once a neighbor gets sick enough with another person's property they call or write in a complaint. THEN the President goes over in person to check things out. There's really no need to pay someone to do this for you. It's the HOAs responsibility and it's simple enough to do they should just do it themselves - once they get a complaint.
  3. HARRIS Property Management

    HARRIS Property Management LawnSite Member
    Messages: 135

    Im sure that is excessive thats why I like input from others like yourself. And your right, thats exactly what it is...the committee wants to pawn their responsibilities but thats not the issue. The issue is they want to pay someone to deal with it and monitor it. And Im sure my phone number would be given to everyone in the neighborhood so I can take their complaint as well. But I would think this would surely be worth at least a 150 to 200 a month. Sure its easy...but it isnt a free service that goes along with my lawn contract. Im not in the business of doing nearly free services just to hear someone call me and complain their neighbors rv been sittin in the yard for 2 days instead of 1 and want me to drive out there asap and deal with it.
  4. Mowingman

    Mowingman LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Texas
    Messages: 4,702

    You would be stepping into a hornet's nest. Let the association do their own dirty work. Then, they can hire you to just do the cleanups, if the homeowner does not come into compliance.
  5. JimLewis

    JimLewis LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,872

    I agree with mowingman. I am not sure I'd want to get involved.

    But I do understand your point about charging enough. It may be a headache so I guess you'd want to charge accordingly.

    I'd list it in my bid as a separate line item. So that they could SEE exactly how much this item was costing them. Then they could still use you if they didn't want to pay that much and could just subtract that amount.
  6. grassman177

    grassman177 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,795

    let some one else be the nazi , those kind of "rules" really piss me off, and i think they are un american at the least. hoa idiots make me sick

    stay away
  7. LawnTamer

    LawnTamer LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,986

    HOAs are filled with goose-stepping fascists, wouldn't know freedom if it landed in their lap. I would avoid the enforcement gig like the plague. There is a reason they are trying to pawn this off on you- none of them want to do it. Basically, you end up trespassing on people's private property so you can tell them what color they can paint their mail boxes, how tall they should prune their roses, where they can park in their own driveway etc. Unless you are a Neo-Nazi, I would avoid the whole mess.
  8. Hanau

    Hanau LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,568

    I like the idea of putting it as a line item. Sounds like a pain in the ass. Put it on your bid as an extra $2,000 a month. They'll delete it and do it themselves. Problem solved.
  9. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    What they said.
  10. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Messages: 7,051

    I'd pass. No money will be good enough for the headaches you will get from elders calling and complaining all the time. It sounds like the management doesn't want to fulfill their job duties. I wonder if the person writing their PAYCHECK knows they are trying to paw off his job duties on another company? In turn costing the company money. It could be that the property owner already knows the manager has too much on his plate and is willing to sub those duties out to the person doing the ground maintenance. Who knows? I'd still pass unless they force me into it. (with fare compensation of course)

    As for a figure, will you yourself be routinely watching the area while doing weekly service or will there be others doing the work? If your going to be there maybe you can just charge them per phone call/complaint. On ones that are in violation, charge per occurrence+time spent. It all depends on whether or not the person in charge of enforcement is going to be on the property every week and can be there on a whim to address any complaints.

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