Anyone from San Diego?

Discussion in 'Network: West' started by mr.q, Jun 28, 2010.

  1. mr.q

    mr.q LawnSite Member
    Messages: 105

    Originally from San Diego then moved to Tennessee for about 3 years now in Japan but will hopefully be heading to San Diego in about a year or so.
  2. StoneFaced

    StoneFaced LawnSite Member
    Messages: 201

    My brother lives there and wants me to move there also. My other brother is moving there soon. Until this past year I was happy where I was. The thought of walking away from snow removal would be a serious change after so many years. I don't even know what it's like to be someplace warm during the winter. I think if I left, I would be having flash backs of past snow storms. Competing w/ all the mexicans is a big concern also. Do you think a modestly above average designer/contractor can make a reasonable go of it out there? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
  3. MikeKle

    MikeKle LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,253

    I seriously doubt any mexicans make enough to live in San Diego!!!! The cost of living is ridiculous, but the weather is nearly perfect all the time, all year.
  4. Dnryan

    Dnryan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 55

    oh there is plenty of mexicans here. just take a look at the san diego craigs list in the services page and you will find tons of them everyday posting they will cut your yard for 15 bucks. Crazy cheap and they are everywhere. Lucky for me i found my nitch in getting people who are fed up with not being able to communicate with their landscaper. I'd say 80% of the "companies" here are mexican and most are uninsured and toting around 1 mower in a old beat up nissan or toyota. Just sad sometimes seeing the shotty work on beautiful yards but the grass gets cut to short, summer rolls in and then theres dead spots everywhere. Beautiful yard to crap in less than a month.
  5. mr.q

    mr.q LawnSite Member
    Messages: 105

    How hard do you find it to compete with the prices down there? Do most people prefer quality vs cheep?
  6. Dnryan

    Dnryan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 55

    It really depends where your markeying to. If you go to coastal communities, i'd say most of them care more about quality. If you start going inland more its the other way around. Of course there are hoa's and other communities that still care about quality but by in large, try to stay near the coast. and another thing i found that matters, appearance. I have a black 07 ranger and a black haulmark enclosed trailer and they are both vinyled out in graphics. No scratches or dents anywhere on the vehicles. People that are paying more would rather have that in front of their house while your there than some p.o.s leaking oil everywhere looking like it just came across the border or was revived from a junkyard. Once you get in with a few people that ahve been in those communities for awhile, your golden. I have to elderly widows that have lived here for over 30 years and they are my best salesman. They know people on the city council and throughout the community and they have gotten me over 6 more jobs just this year and all for free. Now you can't beat that.
  7. mr.q

    mr.q LawnSite Member
    Messages: 105

    Dnryan sent you a pm
  8. orlawncaresvc

    orlawncaresvc LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 962

    It's the same here in Fresno, Ca. We've been in the business for 6 yrs now and this year I have to say is the worst year for trying to pick up on a lot of work. Like you said, they are everywhere. Operating from the back of their trucks with their wooden ramps. Little Nissans, Toyotas even nice new Chevys, Fords. You know, every day drivers. Personal vehicles. Its like now and days everybody wants to be a gardner. That's what they call us here. So many of them and I know that they are not Licensed or insured and also charging very cheap.
  9. Dnryan

    Dnryan LawnSite Member
    Messages: 55

    i reread my post and i dont want to come off as a racist. its not just the mexicans but everyone. Even tho they outnumber other ethnicities in this area doing yard work by about 10-1. Its just the whole mindset of "i have a mower, i can do that." It is frustrating for me because i have paid my way through college and will be graduating in december with 3 degrees all in horticulture. It just makes it difficult to break into a new community when just to pay insurance on the truck and trailer, liability insurance, take money out to cover wear and tear on vehicles and equipment, buy supplies, and still make a living, i have to charge twice if not more than the people advertising on craigs list. There is no way to compete with $15/visit. I know that they are not truly the people i am trying to compete with because i do QUALITY work, but it's sad to see the rep it gives the industry when people have no experience, no schooling, no pride in what they do to someones yard as long as they get paid.
  10. desert rose gardening

    desert rose gardening LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 387

    I'm born and raised in San Diego. Been a LCO out of East San Diego county for about 29 years now.

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