Find a spot that borders the U.S. and trade them their were no one will see you.

 

Hey everyone,

I am a Loegering employee, and wanted to comment on a few things. I work in our service department helping resolve warranty claims and any mechanical questions on Loegering products.

Just to clarify, the suggested retail on a 15" VTS is around $14k depending on what machine you put it on. If the dealer charged $20k that is on the dealers end and probably includes freight.

To comment on the original question, the S300 is an excellent machine with VTS on it. I have personally operated this machine and watched it push a tandem axle dump truck out of 6-8 inches of mud.

Hopefully I can help if you have any questions.

 

Welcome aboard, nice to have someone from Loegering to correspond with.

 

Thanks for the welcome, hopefully I can contribute to anyone with questions about our products. Good to be here.

 

Thanks for the response, great to hear from someone from the Co.! Sounds like they are pretty impressive.

 

It will be like a new machine.

I also used to work for the Bobcat engineering department so I have experience with their machines.

Let me know if you decide to get one. It is always good to here from users.

 

I will, I have been in contact w/Krrtrax about them, great guy to deal with, would highly recommend him to anyone considering these tracks.

 

Do you recommend putting a set on a case 1845C? I would like to try and find a good used one in the future but need a way to keep from having flat tires on it. The reason I ask is they don't recommend foam filling the tires as it adds too much weight and cracks around the gear case housing. The question is would it handle your track systems if they cant handle foam filled tires?

 

Do you recommend putting a set on a case 1845C? I would like to try and find a good used one in the future but need a way to keep from having flat tires on it. The reason I ask is they don't recommend foam filling the tires as it adds too much weight and cracks around the gear case housing. The question is would it handle your track systems if they cant handle foam filled tires?

You know this is about the VTS, not the Over the tire tracks?

Just for confusion's sake.

 

Yea I know, they just seem like they would be very heavy and the case has cracking issues so I wonder if they would hold up to the weight and the added stress from the extra traction because of the track undercarriage?

 

The VTS is different than the steel track because it distributes the load evenly across both axles. With the steel you can get uneven loads on the front and rear if you are traveling up hills or on side hills. The VTS distributes this load and the suspension components decrease damage from vibration and jarring.

I have not heard of guys having problems with the 1845C with VTS. We have a few out there and nobody has called to complain about them so I take that as a good sign.

The most popular case machine with VTS is the 95XT with 18" tracks. The 1845C would have the compact undercarriage which is lighter and narrower. It would add about 2200 lbs to your machine.

 

My only question is why you guys from Loegering is why can't you get any of the smaller framed skids down to 66" of width over the tracks, that was one of the big turn offs when I was looking for my Cat skid steer, I had to stay on the 66" width category.

All the models I looked at had only 69", even with the 12.5" tracks.

 

In order to keep the track away from the frame of the skid steer we have to have it spaced out farther. If we didn't space it out, the track would rub on the skid steer body.

We recently unveiled our new VTS system at World of Concrete for smaller skid steers, 40 hp and up. This product will be available sometime this year. We are currently in testing. These will fit into the smaller market so that the width issues won't be a problem.

 

Our Case dealership didn't recommend the VTS system for our 1845C. They said the VTS would add too much weight that would strain the machine too much over time. They said the VTS was intended for some of the bigger XT Series and newer models. I'm sure guys can/do use them on an 1845, but I would be afraid of long term damage. That's a lot of weight for a machine that size.

 

Our Case dealership didn't recommend the VTS system for our 1845C. They said the VTS would add too much weight that would strain the machine too much over time. They said the VTS was intended for some of the bigger XT Series and newer models. I'm sure guys can/do use them on an 1845, but I would be afraid of long term damage. That's a lot of weight for a machine that size.

Probably another saving grace is the fact that the machine only runs 56 hp.

 

TractionExpert_Service, KTRAX or Whomever, I have a couple of quesions for you guys.

Currently I run a Bobcat 773G (S185) 56HP with Loegering OTT steel tracks and would like to upgrade to a CTL and have been thinking of the Deere CT322, the problem I can't justify 35K right now because I've only got 600-700hrs on my current machine which got thinking about the VTS. How well does the Bobcat 773(S185) handle the VTS, do you guys know does it robb alot of power.

So my next question, on the VTS website the spec chart shows different track lengths for different models is this something that can be easly adjusted, so say a 1,000hrs later I decide it's time to trade the Bobcat and go with a Deere 320 will the same tracks work.

 

For the early Bobcats on here i think they talked about the drive chains needed to be heavy on the older models like you have.I'm sure other will be able to tell you here soon.:usflag:

 

The 773/S185 would be a 12" wide or 15" wide track your choice. The frames are adjustable, but the Bobcat VTS are Bobcat specific. You would not be able to change to a JD 320 without considerable expense in changing the frame and the track. The same VTS would fit on the S150, S160, S175, S185, and S205. It would go between these machines with no modification.

 

Hi Traction, I read that there will be a new model of vts for lower hp machines later in the year, would you recommend the current model or new model for a 46hp Bob cat 763? We're doing all the normal landscape stuff, 1/3 excav, 1/3 moving pallets 1/3 everything else. Tried the tracks at the Construction Expo in Stillwater on a 205 and was WOWED, but it's either a new machine or the vts this year, will I be sad with a set of 12" on a 763?

 

The 763 is going to be a little under powered if you do not have the turbo. My suggestion would be to wait for the new smaller VTS later this year. The advantages to you would be less weight, wider track, and less power loss. The new smaller VTS will have a wider track much like the track on the ASV machines. This is much better suited for the landscaping application and you will be much happier with the smaller VTS.

The new one should be available sometime this year. Most likely third quarter.

I worked at the construction show in Stillwater, what a sloppy mud hole that place was.

 

TES, I thought you guys made it rain so there would be some fun terrain to practice on!! I genuinely offer to help test your new small tracks in real life situations! So don't be afraid to call!!

 

It did work out well for us. We didn't get anything stuck all week and had to help push out all of those trucks, and some wheeled skid steers beside us.

The testing of the smaller units is in the final stages and I don't believe we are sending any more units for testing. The service department here is expecting to get ours in a couple of months to write the service and owners manuals. Should be a great product.

 

The 773/S185 would be a 12" wide or 15" wide track your choice. The frames are adjustable, but the Bobcat VTS are Bobcat specific. You would not be able to change to a JD 320 without considerable expense in changing the frame and the track. The same VTS would fit on the S150, S160, S175, S185, and S205. It would go between these machines with no modification.

Traction, I beg to differ with you on this point..Only on the large frame Bobcat is the VTS frame Bobcat specific.There is no expense involved switching over to a Deere 320 other than the trackbands and some adjustments..I rechecked my info on this point this morning with Mears the Loegering rep.also.

 

Hi Traction, I read that there will be a new model of vts for lower hp machines later in the year, would you recommend the current model or new model for a 46hp Bob cat 763? We're doing all the normal landscape stuff, 1/3 excav, 1/3 moving pallets 1/3 everything else. Tried the tracks at the Construction Expo in Stillwater on a 205 and was WOWED, but it's either a new machine or the vts this year, will I be sad with a set of 12" on a 763?

patpls..I have sold 12" units on a 160 New Holland which is 43HP..It is ok for lifting and stability..But it IS short on HP for pushing and such....

 

KRtraxx, you are correct on the 773 going to a 320. I was mistakingly looking at the older version which had the offset sprocket. The new ones are a flat sprocket and can be converted to the JD with only a track replacement. Sorry for the confusion.

bobcatexc, if you decide to buy a small VTS which would be excellent on your current machine, make sure the sprocket is flat, this will ensure that it will fit on the JD if you decide to buy one in the future.