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Anyone recognise these lights?

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by Lite4, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,173

    Hello all,
    They have ERRON on the top plate but no other information. They are a 500watt quartz halogen. Does anyone make an LED substitute that will put out as many lumens in a submersible application? I didn't see the fountain this came out of but we are trying to locate a more energy efficient solution or try to find a replacement. thanks guys

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  2. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,173

    Can James or any other LED gurus point me in the direction of an underwater fixture containing an LED with an equivelant lumen output to the quartz halogen described above? Sorry, I thought I would clarify what I am looking for.
  3. irrig8r

    irrig8r LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,553

    Are those all the same fixture? In the first shot it looks like it says "ERRON", in the last it looks like "ERROR"....?

    They remind me of Hydrel.
  4. klkanders

    klkanders LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 849

    You know Gregg I am seeing the same thing.......at first i thought you had made an "error". :)

  5. Chris J

    Chris J LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,843

    I don't believe your going to find an acceptable LED replacement for a 500w lamp. To my knowledge, there is no such retrofit lamp available that will fit that fixture.
  6. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,173

    Hey Chris,
    Yeah, I am sure you are right about that. I am actually looking for a completely new and different fixture with a high output LED. I am trying not to have to install this one back in again, hoping for an alternative.
  7. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    Tim there might be one place to go to find a LED replacement for that fixture.... Hydrel. They are the 'category killer' of submersible fixtures.

    Here is their LED offering, a 60W unit! No lumen output measure on the spec sheet though... but at 60W and assuming 70Lm/watt efficiency... that makes for a 4200 Lumen output! That is a seriously bright light. I would give them a call for more info. Be prepared for some serious sticker shock.

    http://www.acuitybrandslighting.com...g Pool Fixtures/4426_BM_LED_MONOCHROMATIC.pdf
  8. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    Also, you might want to look for a Metal Halide solution. I was checking out 70W T6 CMH lamps today for an interior job...

    A GE 70W T6 CMH G12 Bi-Pin (miniature) lamp produces 6000 initial lumens, 4600 mean lumens, is rated for 15,000 hours. A very impressive lamp! Comes in both 3000K and 4200K versions.

    Do a bit of digging and I bet you will find Hydrel makes a few T4.5 and T6 Metal Halide fixtures.

    Hope this helps.
  9. Mayor_tx

    Mayor_tx LawnSite Member
    from Austin
    Messages: 62

    Check out Wiedamarks' LED line-up.


    I've used several of their submersibles and they put out a lot of light.

    Plus they are DMX controllable and can change colors if you want.
  10. INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting

    INTEGRA Bespoke Lighting LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,102

    I just took a look at those wiedamark fixtures, specifically their LED line. At only 6w they won't have much more output then a 35W Halogen lamp (at best). Certainly good enough for some applications, but no-where near what Tim is looking for.

    Hydrel is the way to go on this one.

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