Anyone using thenew g6 blades

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by jmorgan71587, Jun 28, 2011.

  1. Richard Martin

    Richard Martin LawnSite Fanatic
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    Let me also add that once slowed down the heavier blade requires more energy (horsepower) to bring it back up to speed. It's a double edged sword. It takes more force to slow it down but once slowed down the heavier blade requires more energy to bring it back up to speed. Inertia works both ways.
  2. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra LawnSite Bronze Member
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    ok in that case, youre forgetting about friction. Those blades arent spinning freely. U ever tried turning the blades with the belt still in place?
  3. Snapper Jack

    Snapper Jack LawnSite Senior Member
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    The thing to remember is the real working force is above that heavy B6 blade,where the working inertia is developed,then transferred to crankshaft and that heavy mass blade absorbs a lot of the transferable working torque that inevitable requires more HP in keeping the same blade speed of a lighter blade at a given RPM. I would rather have a lighter blade backed up by higher engine RPMs where by maximum blade tip speed can be achieved, combined with inertia energy in the blades to overcome the absorbency of power from over grown grass,does this make any sense :confused::) Engine response time from being bogged down will always be quicker too.
    Heavier masses below the crank increases engine stress and causes abnormal wear of the engines internal parts,let alone wear on deck parts. More cons than pros I think.
    Last edited: Aug 18, 2011
  4. TNGrassCutter

    TNGrassCutter LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I got my set in today for my Scag WB. I'm kind of disappointed in the lift, I thought there would be more lift, but ill give them a shot. And they are wide and heavy.
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  5. JDiepstra

    JDiepstra LawnSite Bronze Member
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    Are u sure u got g6? The pic shows a lot of lift.
  6. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
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    I'm not an engineer or mathmatician, but I do know/can hear when my engine "bogs" down, and I can say for sure that heavier blades require a lot more resistance from the grass to slow them down than lighter blades do, and the lighter ones will recover more quickly. The difference in slow down, and thus recovery time never seems to equal the amount of extra drag required to slow them down over the lighter sets in the first place. Another point that needs to be made is that once the baldes are spinning full RPM, it doesn't take any more HP (if even as much) to keep them spinning due to their extra mass/inertia. Also, a lighter blade wil slip on the belt quicker than a heavy blade will since it is more easily held back by thick grass all other things being equal.

    All the theortetical/opinion stuff aside for the moment, the G6's for my machine are the same width, and thickness as the stock blades, and the lift isn't any more pronounced than the OEM high lifts has, so spinning them won't be a problem (for me anyways).
  7. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
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    It does go deeper with what you're saying. I'd have to dig up my notes but in a nut shell, if the object being turns has less weight mass then the object turning it, then it voids out the added inertia. Something like that.
  8. Snapper Jack

    Snapper Jack LawnSite Senior Member
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    I'm no engineer either but there's a much bigger overall picture here being that you have to in vision theses mowers of ours as automobiles and that frictional Hp loses are going to occur through the drive train,(these loses simple aren't unavoidable),which in our case would be the belts,deck and the blades would represent the differential. Having dragged raced for several years,I can tell you for a fact that going from a 8 3/4 rear end to 9 3/4 ,that gained masses from the drive gear and pinion gear required more HP to turn at all given RPMs over the lighter 8 3/4 unit. You simply can't have you cake and eat it to when converting over to the G6 blades,you're going to lose something regardless what HP your mowers packing.You just need more HP to sustain the same or higher blade speeds with the G6s on smaller engine displacements is what I'm trying to say.
    If you'll do a search on the Meg Mo system,members who tried converting over notice a drop in power to sustain the exact blade speed. I'm in no way knocking the G6s and I just want a lighter blade:)
  9. ALC-GregH

    ALC-GregH LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
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    This might be a little radical but do you think drilling holes in the blade would lighten them enough and still be safe to use?
  10. TLS

    TLS LawnSite Fanatic
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