Anyway to kill broadleaf weeds and keep Clover

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by EchoEast, May 21, 2012.

  1. Skipster

    Skipster LawnSite Bronze Member
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    I might agree with the benefits of legumes to some lawns, but in my experience, customers like the idea, but dislike the result. I don't seed standard clovers -- they're too non-uniform. After the first season, they segregate into patches and customers don't like non-uniform patches of flowering clovers.

    The big national lawn care companies have been using dearf non-flowering clovers for years and they seem to be doing well in the accounts that want them. But, I've lost customers over clover damage while trying to kill other weeds. To hear the customer tell it, they want the clover with the white flowers (white clover), but don't want the one with the yellow flowers (yellow woodsorrel) -- and they think they should get it controlled WITHOUT a spot of damage to the desirable clover.

    Over many years, no amount of customer education or setting proper expectations has been able to overcome their objections to clover management. All the clover clients I've seen in my entire career have either quit maintaining their lawns, or simply had the clover removed like a weed.
     
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  2. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    My earth friendly daughter planted clover in her lawn--lots of white bloom for a couple of weeks. Remember as a legume it adds about a pound of nitrogen per year to the grass.

    I read online you can also use black medic for this purpose. No white flowers, but tiny yellow flowers. An annual, but it self-seeds fairly well.

    I have not tried this myself...but maybe I should.
    Thinking.
     
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  3. jbrown65

    jbrown65 LawnSite Member
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    I know this is an old article, but i found it funny that everyone is making fun of the person wanti g clover and here i am looking for the same thing. i want to keep my clover and grass and not the other weeds. i have a very large lawn so i am not seeding the whole thing, but its a lawn of weeds mostly. Closer to the house i would like some softer grass and clover.

    I have much crab grass, dandilions, spikey weeds and other not so soft weed growth.

    Clover attracts honeybees, rabbits, and deer. it also is pretty and soft when there is a whole bed of say Dutch clover. It is low mantience and the kids love looking for 4 leaf clovers. This variety stays short unlike the taller branchy versions. I want to keep my clover. infact spread it. The other weeds are hard and ugly.

    JUst my two cents. and if anyone knows how to keep just grass and clover let me know.

    THanks
    jBrown65
     
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  4. mdloops

    mdloops LawnSite Member
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    Yes. This is actually a big and legitimate concern right now.
     
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  5. hort101

    hort101 LawnSite Platinum Member
    Male, from S.E. New England
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    Great point Thumbs UpThumbs Up:D
     
  6. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
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    Here is information on Mini-clover--tiny leaves. Adds fertilizer nitrogen to the lawn, darker green, dense. In theory, it does not bloom much. I just ordered some seed. Hopefully I can test it.
    http://www.outsidepride.com/seed/clover-seed/miniclover.html

    Hopefully, I can find out if 2,4-D by itself will kill weeds and not harm the clover. A heavy-duty pre-emergent suited for broadleaf weeds would be a help.
    http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/gallery-sc-specialty-herbicide-p-12373.html

    And here is Microclover:
    http://store.whygoodnature.com/microgreen-microclover/

    It is not exactly cheap--but you don't need much. Once established, it creeps to fill in bare spots.
     
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  7. bug-guy

    bug-guy LawnSite Bronze Member
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    ric when you 2-4-d, I haven't found just that active always a 3 way?
     
  8. brichter14

    brichter14 LawnSite Senior Member
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    You can buy 2-4d amine at farm supply stores. Just stay away from mecroprop and dicamba if u wanna keep clover.
     
  9. klsgc

    klsgc LawnSite Senior Member
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    I second Ric's advice. I have a customer with a clover field and run 24d on it in the fall and results are ok. I have seen slight damage at times to the clover but it seems to recover ok
     
  10. upidstay

    upidstay LawnSite Bronze Member
    from CT
    Messages: 1,506

    No. There's nothing that won't kill clover but also take out the other stuff. Spot spraying it is.
     
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