Over the last few months, we've had quite a few heated debates on ICT's products and the lack of information we receive back when answering questions. A lot of those threads were fueled by growingdeeprootsorganicly and I. Honestly, Bill didn't have to answer most of the questions we specifically asked about his product, although it would have been nice for him to answer some (93% crabgrass control with CGH pops into my head). Let's face it, Bill does sell a transition product to attract synthetic applicators more to an organic/organic based end. Bill's fighting the good fight, and that says a lot overall. Barry, I'd like to apologize for saying that the forum is being dominated by guys like you and Bill who don't service many lawns....I don't know that, and being on the organic end it's not about quantity, but quality of your program and services being offered. After many battles with rcreech and others on either forum, I'm getting a little tired of it. It's bad energy, and if anything turns a lot of people off to the positive things I do post. I'm tired of being an internet tough guy, because that's not how I am in person. So once again, I do apologize to you both.