I've been working with some friends that use scag wb's. Yesterday i wanted to try the scag so we switched-he on my toro and me on his scag. Within ten minutes my back hurt from bending over the low controls. I am 6ft tall and man those bars are low when using a sulky. If i'm gonna be cutting all day i need to be comfortable. Maybe i'm a whimp but i'm a comfortable one on my toro.