Average "Life Expectancy" of Employees...

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by impactlandscaping, Aug 30, 2004.

  1. impactlandscaping

    impactlandscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,332

    Just curious to see how everyone has been doing with labor situations this year. My brother has been working with me for three years, and "joe", my other employee, has been with me since December 2003. Well, "joe"started showing up late, and had two no shows in a month..he's outta here, I had given him enough slack because he was a good worker. Well, he and my brother had been hanging out on the weekends and getting chummy, so when I canned "joe", my brother was mad. Basically, I don't think he wanted to pick up the extra slack until I hired someone else. So, I had enough of his crap over the years as well. They are both gone. I called the Unemployment Office Friday to have them send me some applicants with experience, and have already had three calls today. I like the idea of using a service for hiring as it is less personal if they don't work out. We had a summer where we went thru at least five guys in three months, and I hope it doesn't start all over now going into leaf fall. How much have you been willing to tolerate from an employee over the years, because they were a good worker? Sorry for the long post, it's raining and I'm waiting for the phone to ring....
  2. olderthandirt

    olderthandirt LawnSite Platinum Member
    from here
    Messages: 4,899

    If there good and can do 2 days work in 1 day, I'll put up with 1 day of goofing off. lol Keeps payroll lower.

  3. impactlandscaping

    impactlandscaping LawnSite Silver Member
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    Mac, my brother has been a really good worker, and I may have allowed too much slack over the years to him for the fact he is a good worker and my brother. I felt like I had to draw the line somewhere, especially after letting joe go. I'll have no mutiny on me ship, says me, tha' cap'n...arrrrrr...<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_10.gif' border=0></a>LMAO!!
  4. walker-talker

    walker-talker LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 4,771

    I dont think people want to work, like they used to. I work in a factory with a lot of assmbly work. We needed 50 people and wient through 307 others to get that 50. Most of that 307 quit coming to work.
  5. CJ GreenScapes

    CJ GreenScapes LawnSite Member
    from AL
    Messages: 249

    I wish I could answer that question, but right now I am asking myself the same thing. My current employee is testing my limits, but not my authority. He works hard, but his mistakes are getting costly.

    When I figure out how much I will take, I will let you know... LOL
  6. Littleriver1

    Littleriver1 LawnSite Senior Member
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    I'm 60 and when I was in hight school in the early 60's I had a part time job in a machine shop / welding shop. They had about 7 to 10 employees. The owner was in his 50's I guess. Anyway all we ever heard was "nobody wants to work for a living any more". The oldest employees said he had been complaining about that for 30 years. So I guess it's true, there isn't anything new under the sun. The sad part is, he was right then and it's still true. Everytime I say that, I think about old Leo. He was the hardest SOB I ever worked for in my life. I learned more from him in 3 years than I learned in my life. Anytime any of my employees would complain to me about how hard I worked them, I always said " You haven't seen nothing yet". I would never do to anyone what Leo did to us but I wouldn't be who I am if it wasn't for Leo. The answer for you and me is. That's just the way it is, wheels are round and seats are not always soft. Not very many people are going to have your passion for what you do. Just remember, It's your dream, not your employees dream. They have their own dream to pursue and your not in it. The closer you can get an employee to visualizing your dream the longer and harder he will work for you.
  7. Trevors Lawn Care

    Trevors Lawn Care LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,180

    were you one of my grandpa's friends who hiked five miles up hill both ways to school, through 5 feet of snow, just to go to school every morning. Your post has a lot in common with what a bunch of his buddies tell me every time i see them..


  8. impactlandscaping

    impactlandscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,332

    I guess the way I am leaning to go over the next ten or fifteen years is to offer stock options to employees. I believe the hardest working , most loyal, and productive employees would be the ones who share the common vision with you about the future of the company. People who want to just work for a paycheck aren't going to fit in to my plan for the future. Most people are just plain lazy, and only want to do the minimum of what is required of them to eke by. Whatever happened to personal accountability, and taking pride in what you do? Anyone out there doing stock options for employee ownership?
  9. Mark McC

    Mark McC LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,565

    This is off topic, but Trev, that icon you use is a picture of one really hot woman. Care to post a larger version?
  10. walker-talker

    walker-talker LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 4,771

    Trevor, I know you are still young and I am not knocking you for that. I am only 36 and it seems the older you get, the more you remember the harder days vs. the easy ones. I have worked for 5 different bosses in my life and 3 of them were real hard asses, but it is from them I learned the most, especially the first one. I went to work at the age of 13 in an auction house. I worked for him for 5 years and he taught me a lot about work ethics. I can relate with Littleriver.

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