I have been doing some searching and asking the local community members about me expanding my business a little more and going into a 1.5-2 ton container truck. They figure the area isn't going to slow down construction wise right now we are just in a little bit of a slow period now. In the next 10 years there will be 140 houses just built in my area the next community there is projected 600 houses that we know about. There is talk about a couple more developments putting in another 300 or more houses. One of the persons I talked to says sometimes you have to take the risk and buy something if it don't work out sell it. Its making me think well maybe I should try it. There are 2 companies not in this area that have 40 yard bins but most of these new sites can't fit a 40 yard bin or let alone getting a tandem axle rolloff with a 40 yard bin into. Anyhow to the question I know some of you guys use hooklift trucks and are they really worth it ? I have been reading the literature about hooklifts etc they do have their benefits. Some things that concern me is price I haven't got a firm price but I'am looking at 15,000 just for a 9000lb capacity hoist (ouch). The weight of a hooklift system a dual pivot system weighs 1500lbs or so plus the weight of the box so add another 1500lbs approx. There is 3000lbs before any payload is added. I want a dual pivot system as I want the dump angle a single pivot system doesn't have the dump angle. With the added weight a F-450 will be border line for any payload capacity. I was looking over the Switch and Go website I don't plan on buying one of those. It got me thinking of building my own conventional rail system similar to the switch and go but the rail tails will touch the ground. The Switch and Go is simple construction it uses a standard scissor hoist and a electric winch. Okay drawback if I build my own hoist I will have to build my own boxes nobody really manufactures 6 yard conventional rail boxes. There are hooklift boxes out there as they seem to be more common with smaller operations. There is allot of work building bins even if I got my brother to help me it would be about 3000 dollars a bin cost wise. I still can buy a 06 F-550 4x4 with a Multilift on it for 65,000 CND thats with no boxes. Its still at one of the dealers I'am looking at. It is allot of money and I can't figure out why its being sold already. Its says its barely been used so either the hooklift system wasn't good enough or there wasn't enough work. Its not in my area but on Van Island, maybe the guy that had the truck tried what I want and it didn't work out. If these developments go through there will be debris to haul away and landscaping materials to haul in. The one development closest to where I live is going to take tons of landscaping. The benefit of having a rolloff truck is ease of loading and I can do more than one job a day. To make the service work is I'am going to do the labour loading the box. I think its why the one disposal company in my area that has a 1.5 ton hooklift doesn't do very well with the truck is he doesn't do any loading. He just dumps the box off and the customer has to load it. Well with basement clean outs usually the old people over 65 don't want to be doing the strenous work carring junk to the box. On construction sites building contractors don't have the time to pick up the debris on the site. My last option is go with a standard dump its the cheapest option (5000 dollars) and I mainly focus on doing the landscaping side and haul trash. I also have access to a 2000lb capacity Hiab that my dad has that could be mounted on the truck infront of the box for lifting the heavy stuff onto the truck. I'am still not sure if there will be enough profit to pay for a 2 ton rolloff truck and containers probably a 70,000 dollar investment. For that kind of money I can buy a decent used tandem axle rolloff and find some used 40 yard bins. Atleast with a tandem axle rolloff you can run a low side box and use the truck as a dump truck hauling dirt. What do you guys think is it worth investing up to 70,000 on a F-550 container truck or should I go into the mini excavating business. If these developments go through there won't be enough contractors with smaller equipment to-do the landscaping work.