Bad Boy Mowers owners or dealers comments

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by WhitehallTurf, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. WhitehallTurf

    WhitehallTurf LawnSite Member
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    I am kicking tires on this line and just wanted to get comments from owners of mowers or dealers comments about what they thought.
  2. TheOctagon

    TheOctagon LawnSite Senior Member
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    What model are you looking at?
  3. retrodog

    retrodog LawnSite Silver Member
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    So far sold nearly 600, been really happy with them. Wish you were closer I would just say come by and grab one for a week or so to really know if you like or not... The company has come a long way in the years it has been in biz. They built 20000+ this year, and for a company to have no dept at all, is pretty amazing. The Outlaw is an amazing machine period, then factor in their pricing structure, a home run for sure. This year they are releasing the Outlaw XP which is basically a mix of the lightning and outlaw, with the Grammer seat upgrade, I don't think anything out there comes close to cut paired with ride, then ease of maintenance, price, factory backing, can't overlook them now...
  4. dtc0207

    dtc0207 LawnSite Member
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    Out of those 600 how many have had repairs made and what has been the biggest problem
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  5. retrodog

    retrodog LawnSite Silver Member
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    Oh wow, not sure, I would say I have seen 50 to 100 so far for regular repairs and maintenance (glancing over quickbooks looks like the oil changes and repairs can't be seperated, but that's prolly a good estimate) . Wheel bearings, idler pullies, spindle bearings, belts, deck adjustments, Carb clean outs, starters, solenoids, oil leaks, throttle cables, choke cables, gas lines cracked, I don't know just normal stuff you normally see as a shop I would guess.... the weird stuff, I had a ton of Kawasaki coils, a couple of diesels had the governors go out, I have seen a couple clutches out of balance new, 2 pumps with leaks brand new, 3 Briggs els motors went out first time being cut with, had 2 guys break their wheel hubs off... 15mph machines getting 1000 a year by hourly employees will go through regular junk waay more than a solo guy or homeowner. I have seen almost everything these past 4 years. the main thing I was dissapointed with over the years, we got a bad run of idlers a couple of times the past 2 years, and apperently Kawasaki got a bad run of coils which ran them out and they were backordered last year... I can say issues mainly arise in the first 20 hours, and then usually in the third year i how I have noticed so far. I would say $100 a year in oh crap stuff put behind every year would cover most, that way you might not use any one year, but something happens unexpected you have a little nest neg. Any lco that asks me what to throw in the tool box for oh crap stuff, extra blades, belts, an idler, set of wheel bearings, some tire plugs, and a grease cap for the front forks... anything else would be better to fix back at the shop or at home, but those are things I could see most guys fixing to get the day finished. We work on all brands of mowers and we don't see anything more unusual than the other brands, what I really like is when there is an issue how easy the Bb's are to access, most other brands take a lot longer for what should be quick jobs. I feel like I will see a lot of the mowers in I sold 4 years ago next season for repairs and refreshing, but so far its just hit and miss and very little repairs... I am the kinda Guy that is preventive though, a lot of the bearings I replace aren't bad yet, just noisy or feel rough, after asking customers if they want to risk tearing up something, or another trip to shop, they always say to go ahead. I want my mowers to feel like new again when they leave the shop (unless customer can't afford too...I have a few that come in with their wheel shaft Wallored out, or their spindle housing ruined because they refuse to replace bearings or grease)...
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  6. badbart

    badbart LawnSite Member
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    I know this is an old thread but I have a Bad Boy 72" Diesel now and I wanted to put this out there for anyone interested. I live on a 113 acre ranch that boards and trains horses. We had a 2010 John Deere 72" Diesel and it cut beautifully. Almost immediately after bringing it home I noticed that the right front caster would wobble at transport speed going down the asphalt driveway. It was the mowing season so I didn't give it much thought at the time. I mentioned it to the dealer when we took it in for regular service and they found that the caster shaft was bent. I told them that it was that way when we got it. They said I should have told them right away, they can not warranty it. Over the period of time and about 3000 hours we spent over $2000 just on casters, bearings, and races on the JD and I don't remember how much for both front and rear main seals on the engine.

    We just got the Bad Boy last fall and with discounts and such paid about $3000 less than we did for the JD 5 years ago. The BB comes with an excellent suspension seat at no extra cost. The JD cost an extra $300 I believe. The BB rides like a Cadillac with the suspension on the front and rear! Amazing difference! At transport speed the JD is maybe a half mph faster if that. The only advantage the JD has is the quality of cut in thick grass. We use a thicker heavy duty, high lift blade supplied by the dealer on the JD. The BB comes with Fusion blades from the factory and they wear well, but it needs a higher lift to get through the thick stuff. It's slow going with the original blades. I'm looking at options to correct this. With the 4 cylinder 35 horse CAT Diesel I know it has the power and torque advantage over the 31 horse 3 cylinder in the JD. Getting to everything on the BB for maintenance is a breeze. Everything is accessible. Only have 107 hours on it so far but love it. Any recommendations on a good high lift blade would be appreciated. I'm thinking I'll try a Gator Blade unless some of you that have one know a better option.
  7. 205mx

    205mx LawnSite Silver Member
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    Demoed one, guys cussed me and said please don't do this to us.
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  8. retrodog

    retrodog LawnSite Silver Member
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    I used the Dixie chopper x blade setup on mine... Gator g'6 works well also...
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  9. dieselfan

    dieselfan LawnSite Member
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    I have an outlaw 60" with a 36hp vanguard and have been very pleased with it overall. It stripes well and sticks to hills as good as any other mower I have been on. Its easy to maintain and all I have done is change blades and fluids. I also will say that I bought this mower from retrodog and I believe it was his personal mower, since he didn't have any others with that combo and he is a great dealer, he loaded it up and his dad delivered it to me, from Paris TX to Jonesborough TN. I think they are great mowers and would not hesitate to buy another. Thanks again retro, I'll be calling you when I'm ready for the aos with the 35hp CAT.

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