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Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by CSRA Landscaping, Nov 9, 2002.

  1. CSRA Landscaping

    CSRA Landscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,232

    I started out bagging two years ago, then this past year, I switched to mulching after reading so much about it here and elsewhere. The mulching was great as far as solid mowing and not having to get off of the mower ... I was liable to runn out of gas before I had to get off. As far as appearances, mulching did ok, I really have no complaints about its appearance, except with bahia. It can handle leaves without a hitch.

    This year, I just put the bagger bag on and, oh my! What a difference. I feel that I can go through thicker grass, leaves, etc. quicker with the bagger than with the mulch kit. I'm using a Scag Tiger Cub with a 19 HP Kaw. And as far as appearances go, well, it just looks SO much better when it's bagged, to me. The bagger that I'm using is the one that Scag sells for the STC, it's a spindle-driven, three bag system, works quite well.

    This is just my opinion. Anyone else notice the same or the opposite? Anybody do both at different times of the year?
  2. IBGreen

    IBGreen LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 726

    I'm with you on this, except for on our two 18 acre accounts!
  3. bubble boy

    bubble boy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,020

    mulching can look as good as bagging, but in my opinion will never look better. bagging almost always has the quality advantage

    personally, we just sideshoot. looks good, requires a bit of blowing, but no time to dump and no dump fees. plus, i am far from a tree hugger, but landfills don't need grass.
  4. jason r.

    jason r. LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 338

    down here in SE Louisiana, I mulch from March through September and bag from October through February. It seems to be the best schedule, for me, in my neck of the woods.
  5. dlandscaping

    dlandscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    from mass
    Messages: 835

    bag here all the time.
    tried both side discharge and mulch kit poor results increased mowing time .
    switched back to bagging full time next season bag all the time.
    All the lcos bag here just about all season i think it looks 50 times better too.
  6. Navig8r

    Navig8r LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 477

    CSRA... just curious.... how big are the properties you are bagging?, and what type of equipment do you use....... If I bagged most of my accts, I would spend more time emptying bags than I spend cutting..... (Large lots, approx 1 acre avg.)....I find discharging to work well (except near busy roads, etc.)
  7. CSRA Landscaping

    CSRA Landscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,232

    I'm not sure of the exact property sizes, since the parking lots take up a good amount of space, but I do anywhere from .5 acre lots to ? whatever. Right now I think the largest I have is 10 acres or so, 4.5 of which are turf. I'm using a Scag Tiger Cub, 48" advantage deck as the primary mower, SW36 as a back-up.
  8. 1grnlwn

    1grnlwn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,261

    Can't speak for the warm season grasses, but in cool season grasses Bagging What a Waste! Pay to have nutrients put into the turf and then lawn guy carts them away in his pickup. If you are cutting it high like you should clippings should be no problem. Even mulching is a waste of energy. I would put up doubles against any combo and come out on top. Obviously a bagged yard will look a little better for the first day or two. I feel sorry for the LCO who is forced to bag due to the ignorance of the customer and the neighbors. The only prop we bag has cig butts all over and we cut it first and then bag. Not to mention that a very good herbicide is being droped from the residential lable because of ignorance of composting sites. Composting sites! Why the hell do we need composting sites? Compost the stuff right in your front yard Gibrone! Leaves come but 2 months a year, Who cares? This is the real debate.

  9. CSRA Landscaping

    CSRA Landscaping LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,232

    Mark, most warm season grasses are supposed to be cut no higher than 3", if I'm not mistaken.

    I think what I said is that I've done both and I have chosen that bagging, in my opinion, fits better with my properties.

    Wrong. This is completely separate from the contest going on about who can outdo who. This is an observation that I had this past week due to a change back to bagging FROM mulching.

    And what are we in business for, after all? To make a profit, right? Customers pay for what they want. Guess what most of them want? Bagging. Is it ignorant? Sure, a little. Does it matter? Not that much it doesn't. If you can learn to give the customer what they want instead of what you want you'll have a better business.
  10. 1grnlwn

    1grnlwn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,261

    Uh this was the Quote , those .....s changes the meaning. If you are cutting warm season turf then I wasn't talking to you. From what I have read here most cut the warm season much shorter than 3".

    So what you are saying is that two wrongs make a right? I fail to see how its good business to waste your time and the customers money on an operation that is traditional and not benificial to the health of the turf.

    Like I said its too bad that Cutters are forced into this too keep jobs. I don't even mulch. No wonder people go back to bagging after they leave little grass balls all over the yard. Mulching is a gimic to sell $500 push mowers to homeowners who have $90 push mowers.

    Sorry If I came on too strong but Baggind And Mulching are pet peaves of mine becaues neither are needed for properly cultivated COOL season turfgrass.

    Thats all I'm Sayin.


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