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Beef up my truck #2!!

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by Cutter1, Dec 29, 2008.

  1. Cutter1

    Cutter1 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,261

    4 seasons, i just have to know how cutting grass makes you invisible to dot??? This why we are getting a hard time from dot. I have everything legal, I worry about weight, because I too cut grass and more than you could ever dream of and I have been stopped and weighed in a 3/4 ton truck on the side of the road. doesn't matter what you have it registered at, matters what the sticker on your door says. Had my 3/4 ton rated at 11k, the guy laughed as he stroked me a fine!!! enjoy.
  2. ryry278

    ryry278 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 588

    I thought you had to have a CDL if your over 10,000lbs. What was your weight at? Does not seem like you could get a legal fine if your 3/4 ton truck with a 8x20 trailer that cant even hold 10,000 lbs cuase both axels are at 3,500?? What was your fine for?
  3. mybowtie

    mybowtie LawnSite Senior Member
    from NY
    Messages: 683

    Holly SH!T....Guy asks a simple Q about beefin up his suspention, and everyone starts on the dot stuff. Simple Q..should be a simple answer...
    He NEVER said he was invisible to DOT. Everyone assumed he was going to be overloaded...And dont give me this "were just lettin him know" stuff.
    The mod's locked the thread for good reason..Let it be..........
  4. packey

    packey LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 556

    Hey it all depends on wat state you are in and how the state enforcesthe DOT rules. Here in Texas I can run a lot heavier rig than I could in colorado. In colorado if I was over 10001 that is combind gvwr I had to run dot. I do not care wat the rig was. I did not have to have a CDL however. Here in Texas I can skate under with up to 25000 lbs gvwr ( this is my understanding from a Texas Weights and Measures Officer). I ahve said before sevral months ago it depends on the state you are in. If you are unsure or you feel you have been ticketed unfairly check with the Local DPS office

    NEW CITY LAWN CARE LLC LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,271

    I think the weight is over 20k for a CDL requirement, I mean after all you can rent a 24' Uhaul or Penske Rental truck and that truck is over 10k empty without a CDL requirement.
  6. ryry278

    ryry278 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 588

    I assume this is the same thing??
    A USDOT Number is required if you have:

    * vehicles that are over 10,000 lbs,
    * if you transport between 9 and 15 passengers (including the driver) for compensation,
    * if you transport 16 or more passengers, or
    * haul hazardous materials in interstate commerce.

    If so this means there is a federal requirement. I would think if he is under it then he should have no problems
  7. Cutter1

    Cutter1 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,261

    I was replying nicely and jumped on me, thats why the #2. pretty easy to be overweight on a 3/4 ton. Had it rated for a one ton...11k plow, spreader, diesel =fine. they were checking brakes, lights, engine mount bolts, I was pissed. just crazy, i thought the same thing about the "little guy cutting grass" THey changed my mine. thats all I have to say, I'll shut up now. I would just add springs to the back and timbrens up front to beef up. :)
  8. nosparkplugs

    nosparkplugs LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,444

    I agree too.

    we can list all the DOT, FMCSA laws until were blue in the face, give "real world" experiences's of portable scales being use'd, hefty over weight fines etc. Just the MASTER "GR" he knows it all:laugh:

    Bottom line if you do not cross state lines you ONLY have follow your individual State's DOT laws. Ignorance is NOT bliss, and we should assume were all going to get stopped at some point during our career's.

    Here in Tn you can operate without a CDL or DOT #'s up to 26,000GWVR towing your own equipment. That is as frickin Black & White as it gets. From that point I'm or we are intelligent enough to do the math. Now If I cross the border into a neighboring state I cannot assume TN law applies.

    Some states allow for towing a trailer with a trailer, some don't.
  9. 4 seasons lawn&land

    4 seasons lawn&land LawnSite Gold Member
    from NY
    Messages: 3,614

    Yeah, you must be quite the big business success with the time and mentality to make post's like this.
  10. wellbuilt

    wellbuilt LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 275

    I like to add a small spring lift , shocks, and BFG AT tires. The funny thing with the DOT is you don't need the DOT # s to be a target . They pulled my friend over today for hauling fire wood with out a tarp on his Ford ranger. Yes he was over weight by a lot and yes he has a fist full of tickets . I passed my CDL driving test today so now the DOT will have to find a new reason to write me up . I am confident they will think of some thing. John

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