Currently Husqvarna XP+.

 

Echo red armor is good stuff. I'm currently using motul 800 2T:

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Used echo superblend in all my stuff for yearsssssss....no problems at all

 

Been using RedMax for 20+ seasons. Great oil.

 

Amsoil Saber

 

Amzoil Sabre Mostly because its whats available in town.
Summer ratio 65 to 1
Fall/leaf season 55 to 1; I like a little more oil in the mix when running machines a tank full at a time
I run this acrros the board in all my 2stroke stuff from 4-mix to my old polaris sled that calls for a 25 to 1 mix.

I recently did some tree removal for a customer where he let me use his stihl saws along with my saws. I had him provide fuel for his saws. I didn't want my fuel in his stuff for a couple tanks then have him switch back to his oil and mix and the possiblility for something to go bad

 

Saber @ 80:1. Can't beat it with any other brand.

 

Same. Not one two-stroke oil comes close to what saber can do. Been using it almost 30 years since I started in the mid 90s.

got an old echo trimmer and redmax blower from my first days in business, still running perfectly today

 

I just ran the stens oil for the past few seasons and have had zero issues, although I do not think it has any stabilizer in it so be sure to empty all the 2 stroke equipment out at the end of fall and run it dry. Both my closest dealers don't seem to have any lately so I just picked up a case of Echo Red Armor yesterday to try out.

 

I either run echo, sthil, or if really feeling fancy yamalube. Anything specifically designed for aircooled engines.

The pic below are flashpoints of the oil, generally speaking for air cooled engines the higher the number the better. (they run HOT) I would stay away from castors though unless you enjoy tearing engines apart for regular cleanings. List stolen from other website regarding motocross type engines.

I wouldn't ever advise a outboard oil in an aircooled engine, unless no other choice.

 

I either run echo, sthil, or if really feeling fancy yamalube. Anything specifically designed for aircooled engines.

The pic below are flashpoints of the oil, generally speaking for air cooled engines the higher the number the better. (they run HOT) I would stay away from castors though unless you enjoy tearing engines apart for regular cleanings. List stolen from other website regarding motocross type engines.

I wouldn't ever advise a outboard oil in an aircooled engine, unless no other choice.


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I fully understand flashpoint, and that flashpoint and film strength do not always run hand in hand. A good oil can have a low flashpoint and a high film strength even in chainsaws turning well over 10k rpm in the heat of August.

 

Amsoil Saber for me

 

Klotz for me,
Benol and or tecplate

but then again, I run my two-stroke throttle like it’s a switch, it’s either off or on full throttle.

I’ve never needed to clean anything.
( water cooled or air cooled).

 

Dang, must be wild blowing out beds at wot. Chips be flying everywhere.

 

Amsoil Sabre

 

Yinz run chainsaws 80;1, or you give them a bit more oil?

 

I run all my 2 stroke stuff 80:1, saws included. They all love it.

 

I switched from Stihl ultra to Amsoil Sabre this season. So far I’ve had zero issues.

 

Another vote for klotz products mixed with Sunoco ethanol free gas( from local speed shop) equipment purrs on this mix and as an added bonus for me the smell. Reminds me of the motocross track.

 

Not Opti-2. I had two Stihl BG86's go belly up on me using that stuff. Flywheel bearings went out twice. Talked with Stihl at GIE. First thing he said was "you aren't using Opti 2 in the blower are you?" Busted. Switched to Stihl Ultra. Something better?

 

How much you wanna pay? I’m not a pro mechanic but I’ve done enough I feel comfortable saying you’re fine with Sthil, echo, red max, etc. Besides staying away from those miracle oils like opti, don’t use outboard stuff unless no other option. Yes there’s better stuff but these aren’t high hp race engines either. And there is nuance with the better stuff, like is it meant for premix or injector, etc.

 

I'm most interested in Echo Red Armor, because of it being red (seems like an added safety for when your tired or distracted)

Cause the small premix bottles will easily get cornfused with the full qt regular bottles.....

 

Not sure what small bottles vs quart bottles have to do with the color of the oil?

 

Blue is my favorite color, so as my two stoke mix

 

I can usually tell by the words "MIX FUEL" written with a Sharpie on my mix fuel can.

 

This assumes you are sure you put the oil in this particular time.

 

Some pics of Saber in the tanks of some of my blowers. You can see from a distance where each one's fuel level is-

 

Wow, right on!
Where do you get your Saber? Do you run it 50:1?

 

This pic has red armor in it and you can see it quite well here, but out in bright sunlight, and especially from a distance, it is hard to see compared to saber followed by another with Saber at 80:1

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Thx for the pics. I'm pretty interested in trying the Saber. I'm not sure I'm comfortable though with mixing any leaner? than 50:1. Would you have problems running it 50:1? I'm sure it's just fine to run 80:1, but it just feels wrong lol.

 

Not sure why they are showing up in reverse order because in the preview they are in the correct order.

 

Nothing replaces gas blowers tho. Battery blowers are pretty pathetic

 

Plus this whole putting the oil in first business forces you to have to bring the oil to the gas station or have the foresite to pour it in before you head to the gas station.

Although I suppose you could pour from one can to another at the shop.

So many options!

 

Plus this whole putting the oil in first business forces you to have to bring the oil to the gas station or have the foresite to pour it in before you head to the gas station.

Although I suppose you could pour from one can to another at the shop.

So many options!

Yeah, lots of ways to fill a can/skin a cat, but mine has remained pretty constant - add oil from bottle to the can at the gas station, then add one gallon of gas.
The mix can always gets filled first, then I fill any other cans/mowers.
The oil bottle is in the back of the truck in a bucket with similar items, so it's always on hand. If I need to refill the mix can in the field by pouring gas into it from a 5 gal can, the process is the same.

Also, I've never had an issue visually seeing that there's oil in the gas when dispensing it into a machine, regardless of the brand/color of oil used.

 

Sabre 80:1 in everything since 2014, even my kids 2 stroke atvs and dirt bikes. No more clogged screens in my handheld equipment.