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Best Place to be in business as an LCO

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by JimLewis, Feb 5, 2004.

  1. Bay de Noc Lawn Car

    Bay de Noc Lawn Car LawnSite Member
    Messages: 161

    If you wan't to plow snow and get away from immigrant workers try the south shore of lake Superior (Marquette MI). We get 200''-300'' of snow a year and still have a farilly long growing season. (including spring and fall cleanups). EAH!!
     
  2. NCSULandscaper

    NCSULandscaper Banned
    Messages: 1,557

    I enjoy where i am at. Just north of Raleigh, NC. Lots of people moving out of raleigh into the somewhat country area to get away from the busy life.
     
  3. impactlandscaping

    impactlandscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,332

    I think they are all coming up here from NC to open Mexican restaurants everywhere!!!!!<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_12_3.gif' border=0></a>~OLE~!!!
     
  4. NCSULandscaper

    NCSULandscaper Banned
    Messages: 1,557

    Dont you want some more of them??????????
     
  5. impactlandscaping

    impactlandscaping LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,332

    LOL! Only the ones who can cook, not landscape or mow!!!<a href='http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008' target='_blank'><img src='http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_13_2.gif' border=0></a>
     
  6. mbricker

    mbricker LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 505

    If you want top pay, stay out of NW Arkansas. It's supposed to be a big boom area, with WalMart, Tyson Foods, J.BHunt Transport, and other huge companies based here. But guess what? They are all here because of the hillbilly mentality that makes us lowly worker bees think we are being treated just great if we get paid $9 an hour! No joke, I know some fair sized operators with 20+ full-time employees who are grossing $20-25 an hour per man--using decent equipment not junk.

    The boom here actually started about 1965 when developers went all over the urban industrial north holding seminars for the next wave of big business retirees. The big pitch was "You can live very cheap down there because those ignorant hillbillies will work for you for peanuts!"

    That thinking still holds, and the current tidal wave of Hispanic immigrants is just fueling the belief that the working man should be a serf who enriches the lifestyle of his betters.

    Whoa--that really sounds a little bitter. Truthfully, you can carve out a comfortable niche by sticking with quality and being selective, but you will never get the rates here, that I see some of you mention.
     
  7. Mr_Marc

    Mr_Marc LawnSite Member
    Messages: 218

    And I thought I was the only one on here from Palm Beach.

    Prices are good if you speak the language. Nothing like working with a customer and you can't communicate, But that is a different story.
     
  8. nelbuts

    nelbuts LawnSite Bronze Member
    from SW, FL
    Messages: 1,053

    Right here and now I want to put an end to the myths of how great it is in FL, and the rest of the country.

    We do have great weather here that is true. From April till end of Oct. the highs are above 90 with about 75% humidity. Lows in the summer morings are about 78 degrees. Rains about every afternoon. Grass grows about 3/4 inch per day. Weeds constantly popping up in flower beds. Shrubs you prune on a Monday need it again need it again two weeks later. There are bugs everywhere. In my county of 150,000 there are over 200 lawn maintenance companies. We cut every week end of April till end of October, then every two weeks except Jan. which only gets one cut. Nothing changes, everything is green here year round. It is really boring.

    The thing that makes it good is everyone is on contract and you get the same amount each month. There is no snow. When it gets cold here we are talking 60's for the highs and upper 30's low 40's for the lows. We wear winter coats during that time!

    Prices are not too bad as we have mostly smaller yards but still have low ballers.

    If you are looking for the ideal place to do this type work may I suggest any place but here. Have a great spring!:D
     
  9. brucec32

    brucec32 LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,399

    Sounds like you actually just described a good market, Nelbuts. At least for someone who likes mowing. I can take the heat and humidity, I'm from Georgia. The difference is that it's a LOT longer summer here than it was back in Atlanta.

    I figure that weeds out the Johnny Come Latelys and makes hiring a lawn service well worth the money for the homeowners. I found that in the Spring and Fall when it was NICE to be outside, the homeowners didn't value us as much, but come July they would pay any price to get the job done. Here in S. Florida, "July" weather lasts about 6 months.

    But the best thing is the nearly year round season, which makes it a) easier to hire help since you can't get anybody good offering seasonal work only, b) easier to make money mowing when you get in 40 cuts a year instead of 25 or 30.



    I keep hearing about those fast growing ficus hedges. If it's just quick cutting of new growth I can hack that. But it definitely will be a bigger part of the biz than back home where it was a 2-3 times a year thing.

    As far as the grass growing fast. That's true. But the types of grasses here are easier to mow than the door mat thick Bermuda that was popular in Atlanta. 1/2" of growth would bog you down in wet conditions, and its finer texture meant discharging was a no-no and mulching was tough unless you kept on top of it. And the grass was unforgiving of undulations in the cut. Tiny variations showed in the lawn and looked bad.

    Weeds in beds are bad, but then again if you're pricing right and charging for the extra work it becomes a good thing. At least it beats trying to grow grass in the transition zone where the cool season turf hurts in the summer and the warm season grass is brown for 4-5 months of the year, and where the hard clay soil makes digging even the smallest holes a chore.

    So, each area seems to have its pros and cons. There's usually a way to work smart and turn the negatives to your advantage whereever you are. Up North? Push snow around and enjoy the cooler temps and beautiful bluegrass during the warm months. Down South? Enjoy the year-round season and its advantages.
     
  10. lawnman_scott

    lawnman_scott LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,542

    What county are you in polk or pasco? your description is why i will never leave.
     

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