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Blowout Wall

Discussion in 'Hardscaping' started by dean1130, Aug 4, 2011.

  1. dean1130

    dean1130 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 41

    I have a customer that has a retaining wall that has blownout. She wants it to be redone the right way. She had someone else do it before. I have never redone a wall before. She has all the block still. So in this case, I just need to remove the remaining block and reconstruct the wall and will have some material cost in crush stone, sand, geogrid, and drainage pipe minus the block. The wall is 70 ft long by 2ft high. Most would not recommend geogrid, but there is a slope. Just curious on pricing, if i should charge more since they have the block already.
  2. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,576

    What does the fact that they have they block already have to do with your time? Please explain.

    When it snows, I do not charge our snow removal clients more
    Money because I didn't supply the snow.

    Also, this is a re-do job. You're not gonna like me after this, but if you need to ask whats needed, how to do it, and how to price it - This is a job you should not be involved with. The best thing to do is let an experienced wall person do the work so this home owner can have piece of mind. And so you don't get sued 5 years from now.

    There is more to building walls than just stacking block. A 2' wall failed, you're telling us. It did not fail cause of lack of grid. It failed from lack of site preparation. In other words someone just plopped block in/on the ground and built a wall like we did with Legos when we were 6. and I say this confidently without seeing pictures :)


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  3. scagrider22

    scagrider22 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,272

    The only reason to charge extra in this case is if you have to clean dirt off the blocks, scrape glue off, or if they are still installed and need to be removed to do site work. But I agree with DVS, you sound like you may not be the right guy for the job, the home owner may eat the cost of a failing wall one time but I bet they wont eat the second failure!
  4. Krafty

    Krafty LawnSite Senior Member
    Male, from St. Louis MO
    Messages: 706

    Should you charge more?? Think about that question for a minute and I am sure you can figure out the answer. Now, not only are you building a retaining wall, but you are also sorting through a flippin mess, and scrapping mud, dirt, and glue off blocks. Maybe you should let this one go....
  5. xtreem3d

    xtreem3d LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 801

    I guess the other company isn't chipping in? I would rather take clean block off a staked palllet sitting close to the site , than pick up a bunch of scattered blocks and clean dirt and glue off them..............but that's just me

    EDIT (Krafty beat me to it !!!)
  6. dean1130

    dean1130 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 41

    I have built many walls.... That is what caused it to fail was the base. It was not wide enough.
  7. PatriotLandscape

    PatriotLandscape LawnSite Bronze Member
    from MA
    Messages: 1,209

    did we miss something here?
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  8. DVS Hardscaper

    DVS Hardscaper LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,576

    And i'm not clear on how the base caused a "blowout".

    Can you please elaborate.

    Or upload some photograghs.
  9. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,889

    Repairs time and matrials.....

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