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Booze,Corn,Beets deicers

Discussion in '<a href=http://www.plowsite.com target=_blank ?>Sn' started by Eager Beaver, Jan 20, 2001.

  1. Eager Beaver

    Eager Beaver LawnSite Member
    Messages: 95

    We have all heard about the Magic Products and how they work. Has anyone tried any of the other products that are avaliable? Some are distillery,corn and sugar beet byproducts mixed with mag chloride or other inert ingrediants. Now Magic Users don't bash me! I am just curious what other products have been tried if any and with any success. Thought it was a good topic for comments and experiences.
  2. Mike Nelson

    Mike Nelson LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 416

    Good Morning,
    To tell you the truth,around here I have never seen an advertisement for any else,except pure liguid mag.(no salesmen)
    I am sure it all works.Thought about having a huge party,then taking the almost empty bottles and making our own.What do you think?If it doesn't work at least it will be one heck of a party!
    I can tell it's gonna be a lonnnggg day..
  3. thelawnguy

    thelawnguy LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,411

    According to my research, that is what magic is, magnesium mixed with distillery by-products (sold under the trade name IceBGone).
  4. Mike Nelson

    Mike Nelson LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 416

    Just talked to J.P.and you are correct.Sears oil which sells it in New England under trade name IceBGone.
    IMUS which sells it in N.Y. and elsewhere under trade name MagicO.
    Sears oil is the company who holds all the pattens.
  5. Eager Beaver

    Eager Beaver LawnSite Member
    Messages: 95

    Does any one have John Parkers Email address?
    I haven't talked with him in quite awhile about this and would like to get in contact with him. Has anyone had any complaints from their customers about the products and what has been your overall success storys about using it. (Magic)
  6. Alan

    Alan Member
    Messages: 1,185

    Ok,, here's a decent case study.

    Yesterday we had 2-3 inches of snow that dribbled down over a period of about 6 hours. Temps were low 30s, nto quite neough to keep it melting. The result was that if there was much traffic it packed into a thin layer of something very close to ice.

    By 7 this morning it was down to 5 deg. F, with some sunshine thorugh broken clouds and a 5-10 mph WNW wind.

    A friend of mine operates an equipment sales and rental shop near me. Over the years he has done his share of favors for me. By way of thanks, I make a habit of salting his lot if I have some left int he spreader after I finish my run. He had plowed late yesterday afternoon, after the storm had passed. The yard was covered with a layer of pack, well tracked down from traffic.

    I dropped 3-400 lbs on an area that I would consider to be around 15,000 sq. ft. then headed home for sleep. I stopped back this afternoon with a question and he asked what I had put down. This fellow has been involved in large sacle commercial snow operations in the past so he knows a bit about what's "normal". He commented that he knew it was too cold for salt to work, and that he was amazed at how fast it burned the pack off. His other comment was that he thought, at first, that it was sand from the color and that it didn't look like I put down all that much.

    Anyhow, I dropped close to 4 tons last night, more than I would normally apply, but due to the low temperatures I felt it was better to overapply and clean things up. Virtually everything was bare and black by early afternoon.
  7. Eager Beaver

    Eager Beaver LawnSite Member
    Messages: 95

    Thats what I am looking for. Do you pretreat your own piles or do you purchase the salt pretreated? Has anyone tried straight liquid as a deicers as far as spray applications? I am trying to get a feel for the product and the application. Being in Michigan we are a little behind the times in these applications and experience with these products as the guys in the East. Cost of course is a facter because of our abundance of calcium chloride that is avaliable in our area. Lots of area's are trying differant products and want to know whats working. Thanks for your comments
  8. Mike Nelson

    Mike Nelson LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 416

    Eager Beaver,
    John's email is MulchTyson@aol.com not sure on caps.Phone is (845)485-4200
    Keep trying,he has not been on in a while.I did tell him you were looking for him.
  9. Eager Beaver

    Eager Beaver LawnSite Member
    Messages: 95

    Thanks I really appreciate it. I have noticed he has't been on in awhile also. I will try and contact him if he doesn't get ahold of me. I was hoping to get with him this fall when he had the barbeque but was not able to get away that weekend. Thanks Again
  10. Mike Nelson

    Mike Nelson LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 416

    Eager Beaver,

    Are you going to Denver?John will be there.

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