Thanks for your help on the bayleton Ray ! We have had tons of rain here in N.C. and I've cut allot of yards wet. Almost all the yards in our area have brown areas in the yard. I don't think it can all be brown patch. I think brown patch is pretty defined. I've heard of spring kill but I'm not sure what it looks like. The stuff I'm talking about looks like thatch. Is this a problem ? Will it grow out ? Whats the best way to distinguish brown patch from brown stuff that is not a disease ? Thanks.