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Bulk Gas? Pump on property?

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by cuttin-to-the-Max, May 3, 2011.

  1. cuttin-to-the-Max

    cuttin-to-the-Max LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,338

    Hey i was just wondering how many of you guys are out Buying gas in bulk.
    i go when the guys fill up in the morning...We take up 10 Pumps at a time! We there every morning at the same time and get dirty looks from all of the other customers lol but,
    Gas is getting expensive!!!!!!!!

    Anyone buy gas in bulk and filling up 1000 gallon tanks before it hits 5 bucks a gallon????

    I was thinking about doing this at my shop since its zoned and i could do most of the digging work and stuff....

    I just dont know how much of a hassle that would be though.
  2. weeze

    weeze LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 12,595

    nah...gas with ethanol doesn't last very long before it starts to go bad...you would have to use 1000 gallons in less than a month for it to be worth it...i only use about 100-150 gallons a month
  3. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    Maybe try mygallons.com
  4. cpllawncare

    cpllawncare LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,659

    I hate that ethanol crap!!!!!!!
  5. cuttin-to-the-Max

    cuttin-to-the-Max LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,338

    Doesnt all gas have SOME ethanol.......
    I get my gas From either costco or Meijer When possible
    Same gas Company/ Distributer. Usually 5-10 cents cheaper than the corner station.
    Has a label on the pump that says it contains less than 10% ethanol
  6. ecurbthims

    ecurbthims LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 493

    not sure about your local laws ,but gas stations have plenty of environmental regulations to follow ,it would probably be a nightmare for a smaller operator to deal with .There are tanks that sit above the ground ,the tanks sit in a concrete or metal bunker that has a containment system ,not sure if they are available to you ,but they can be rented or leased from some oil companies and will save you the inspection fees.There are also filling stations that you place on the ground ,drive your vehicles onto ,and they contain whatever leakage you might have ,but once again,not sure if they are available to you where you live .You would probably end up paying more for the fuel ,because you wont be buying enough to get any real discount on the fuel ,and you will be added a fuel delivery charge from the local distributer because they wont be bringing a set of b-trains to your shop to deliver only a few hundred gallons at a time ,and I have found that everytime you try dealing with a local distributer ,they wont give you a deal because your stepping on their dealers toes .I used to buy 900 litres of shell rotella oil a week ,retail price at the time was $2.04 per litre ,distributer price was $2.02 per litre plus delivery ,so I used the local kenworth truck dealerships national account and bought it for $1.21 per litre delivered by the same local distributer .I would of bought it from him but he was too stupid to deal with me and I was spending close to $4500.00 per month on just rotella oil.
  7. C6H12O6

    C6H12O6 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 27

    A guy I know has an excavating business, bought gas in bulk and kept it in an above ground tank.

    Long story short, some a**holes broke the lock off and stole a bunch of gas about a month ago.

    Just something to keep in mind if you are considering this.
  8. ghunter502

    ghunter502 LawnSite Senior Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 287

    We have our own bulk fuel. I have had great luck all you have to do legally is have a containment system around your tanks if they leak. We have a 500 gallon unleaded fuel tank and a 300 gallon off road diesel tank. I watch the fuel market like a hawk. I have fuel in my tank now that I paid $3.10 a gallon so I am saving $345 dollars on this barrel. Yes you do have to worry about theft. I have ours triple locked and also behind a locked gate so if they want to steal the fuel they are going to have to work for it. I think it is a great idea I have saved alot of money this way on fuel. We burn at least 250-300 of unleaded in our mowers alone a month so it is a huge savings for us. I would check you local regulations for storing fuel.
  9. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    There exist two other problems:

    1. Getting the fuel to your location, 500 gallons ain't no joke, that tank will weigh well over a ton.
    2. Do you really think fuel will always go up after you bought it?

    I would think, when your tank starts to run low, you place the order.
    Whether fuel costs $2.50 a gallon, or $5.

    And you can play with it some, but remember that fuel goes stale in 3-6 months.

    I suppose at those rates it is probably well worth the investment,
    but I don't think it's worth it for the more casual landscaper, my mowers
    just don't burn that kind of fuel, not even close.
    Last edited: May 4, 2011
  10. ecurbthims

    ecurbthims LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 493

    ghunter -do you have a containment system for your refueling area ,or how are you going to have to deal with the contaminated ground [assuming you dont have one ] if you ever sell your property ?

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