Can Anyone Explain This

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by puppypaws, Oct 18, 2008.

  1. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,162

    This is something I find extremely odd and was wondering if anyone may have a reasonable explanation?

    What would your reasoning be that an electronic fuel injected Kohler engine with only one more hp (27 to 28) could cause the price of a Hustler Super Z (example) to be $1000.00 more?

    Then you take a Bad Boy AOS model mower and go from a Cat 28 hp 3 cylinder diesel to a Cat 35 hp 4 cylinder for a price difference of $900.00.

    With the Cat you are getting 7 more hp and another cylinder which means more metal and parts involved. The 28 efi is nothing but a Kohler 27 hp engine with fuel injection.

    What is your reasoning on this crazy comparison?
  2. nosparkplugs

    nosparkplugs LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,444

    Free market economy, Supply & Demand. You know my stance on gasoline fuel injection it's overated, overpriced, and costs more to operate over the total life of the machine.

    Your better off going diesel period, before investing in any gasoline EFI OR DFI fuel injection system at any price. Go the Poor man Cat diesel a big Block 35hp AC Vanguard gasburner thats going to be a good motor.

    Diesel vs Gasoline not even apples to apples; furthermore the BB AOS 35hp Cat diesel owns it's own plant:laugh: while all other ZTR diesel's or gasoline remain on Earth. Been waiting for the day when a company like BB would have the sense to offer a robust diesel ZTR like the BB AOS 35hp Cat 72" deck. Anything else than the 35hp cat diesel was a waste of money for me.:hammerhead:
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2008
  3. doubleedge

    doubleedge LawnSite Senior Member
    from ND
    Messages: 911

    A lot of multiple acre overgrown lots?
  4. nosparkplugs

    nosparkplugs LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,444

    Pipe line right of way mowing, large church's, athletic fields, large 10 acre estate's.

    The ZD331 72" deck was the second choice; however the final invoice price was higher, and the ZD was heavier, 3 cylinder bota is a stump puller no doubt; however less torque vs the cat diesel. I like the Kubota diesel's run a M6800 on the P- line too, just came down to the 4 cylinder 35hp 70ftlbs cat diesel running the same deck. Any inline 4 or 6 cylinder diesel is just naturally more balanced less vibration.
  5. David Gretzmier

    David Gretzmier LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,645

    Man, my lingo must be dated. I have difficulty understanding what you guys are saying, and I own diesel rigs and have run them for years.
  6. nosparkplugs

    nosparkplugs LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,444

    What yah need translated?:confused: my friend
  7. bohiaa

    bohiaa LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,220

    sounds like your dealer may be marking up tooo much, I dont find EFI that expensive.
  8. puppypaws

    puppypaws LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,162

    Yes, I know I could buy one a little cheaper but even at $700.00 difference for the Kohler efi versus $900.00 between the major differences in the two Cat engines is hard to figure.
  9. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
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    Do NOT read on if you did not want to be given the answer to the riddle,
    such as if you would rather do it the hard way and figure it out on your own.
    You have been warned, this is your last chance to back out so if you don't
    want this answer then leave at once, the very next sentence contains the spoiler!

    Spoiler: The latest technology comes at a price, this price can be steep.

    Same reason why bmw's are more expensive than your everyday car.
    Last edited: Oct 19, 2008
  10. coolluv

    coolluv LawnSite Platinum Member
    from Atlanta
    Messages: 4,509

    What does it matter? If it cost $50000 its making you money, Right?


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