thanx for all the replies. JustALawnGuy, i appreciate the fact that you have plenty of work. i have lots of work but there is time in my schedule for more. you see, i'm greedy. and i'm still in the process of culling. i think the idea of attempting to "hook the fish" at the time of giving the card, is what i'm lacking in these encounters. i will start keeping a notebook with the cards so i can get their contact info. i guess the problem is that i'm not showing enough interest. we are never really off duty are we?