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Case vs Catapillar backhoes...

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by Aliate X, Sep 6, 2008.

  1. Aliate X

    Aliate X LawnSite Member
    Messages: 2

    Hey everyone, Im new to the site I stumbled across it, I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with cat backhoes...I used to have a case 590 super L 4x4, extendahoe, 4 in 1 bucket, etc. and Im considering making the swap to catapillar machines as it seems its what everyones using, minus their skidsteers, I like the case skidsteer controls. Btw Im using it for street excavation. Thanks everyone.
  2. NateV

    NateV LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 340

    Dont swicth just because thats what everyone else has. If your really considering switching demo both then make you decison. My dad has had Case backhoes over 30 yrs and thats all we will ever buy cuz they are a great machine and work for us. Now im not sure what controls you run but if you run 4 stick then dont switch to pilots, you'll hate it. WE have always run 4 sticks and decided to get one with pilots on the one we have now and hate it. That machine is going next year when the new ones are suposed to come out. But its really up to you. Cats backhoes just seem to big and bulky to me, espically if you working in the street.
  3. Aliate X

    Aliate X LawnSite Member
    Messages: 2

    yeah youre right about the 4 stick i forgot about that, Ive always like the 4 stick controls. thanks for the info.
  4. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,162

    I don't think the CAT backhoes are all that popular. The local CASE dealership here has 2 420E's with under 500 hours. This new series has issues. A friend of mine has two 430 E's and they rotate back to the dealer to get worked on. I think he has his own bay at the dealership by now. Pretty hard to beat a CASE backhoe.
  5. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    I wouldn't switch Case is one of the best backhoes made. The reason why Cat might be so popular is either its a union company or Cat is giving good deals. I'am not impressed with Cat backhoes I ran one they are bulky and clumsy.
  6. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,137

    Case rules supreme here, one company here owns somewhere in the neighbourhood of 6 Case 580's.

    Cougar Excavating as I recall.
  7. Gravel Rat

    Gravel Rat LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,544

    Each manufacturer excells in building a machine better than others and with Case it has been Rubber tired hoes they build one of the best backhoes on the market. I think the only closest competitor to Case it John Deere.

    Both companies have decades of experience in farm tractors. Clatterpilllar backhoes can't even compare to a Case.

    Then you have the odd ball brands like JCB, Newholland/Ford and others.

    I have mentioned this before but I worked on a site I ran a JCB and another contractor used a 590 Case. Both 4x4s what the Case could do and go I didn't even try with the JCB.

    Working on another site I worked with a guy I never worked with before I thought I would be a better backhoe operator than him. It didn't work out that way he told me he used to work for a utility company so that explained why he out worked me on the machine. It was a older Case 590 4x4 and I learned never judge a book by its cover I thought the guy was a ordinary labourer.

    Anyhow you want a dependable machine go with a Case. I have ran early 1980s Deere 310 and 410 you want to talk about old machines. The ones where you swung the boom and it wagged back and forth like a dogs tail :laugh:
  8. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,067

    Don't switch. I'm a Cat guy but the new E series are junk. We have one at the training grounds that was in the shop half the time I was there, it was one little thing after another. Nice machine when it ran, to its credit. Has a fair amount of power, it's definately a much more ergonomic machine than the Case bar none. But, comfort alone doesn't pay the bills. I like Case hoes after having run a new 580M we had out there as well, wish we had a Super M but alas, just the standard 580.
  9. coopers

    coopers LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,223

    I think everyone has hit it on the head. I have no experience with CAT so I can't judge too much (other than my personal observations) but I have run Case backhoes for 8 years (not as consistent as others on this forum) and they have always been a superb piece of machinery. I do agree that Deere is probably close behind with their backhoes but like GR said, both companies have had extensive history in the industry and seeing how Case pretty much started the backhoe concept; they seem to know how to build a good reliable machine. My favorite backhoe is the Case 580C and that model is 30 + years old.
  10. Dirt Digger2

    Dirt Digger2 LawnSite Silver Member
    from PA
    Messages: 2,396

    cat backhoes suck because their booms are too heavy in the rear

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