Cat259D/289D vs Bobcat T590/T650

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by ShadowCat, Aug 18, 2014.

  1. bobcat_ron

    bobcat_ron LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,131

    Getting back to the dozer blade, don't waste the money, skid steers have too much weight on the back, dozers have the weight on the front. I pushed out 180 tons of 3/4 clear gravel this morning using only the bucket and pushed it 100 feet on a pile, a blade would have taken all day, and I was done in 2 hours.
  2. mrsops

    mrsops LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,878

    I own both a t590 and a t650 im happy with both. The t590 is actually quite impressive i think. CAT also makes a good machine. They both have there good and bad points. Just demo both and you will see what works best for you.
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  3. 2004F550

    2004F550 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 270

    We bought one of the first 259D our dealer got this winter and haven't ha any complaints as of yet, great little powerhouse. Our go to rental was usually a 289 from the same dealer but recently we've been doing numerous large homes with full basements and no walkouts making the 259 the only choice so we can lift it into the foundation to the grade the slab. The only complaint I have is the camera doesn't seem as sharp as it should an I don't trust it like the cameras on our Cat wheel loaders, not the same quality. We also have the extra counterweight on the rear which is helpful and the power quick coupler. I feel like the controls are much more responsive then those of the newer bobcats I ran lately.
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  4. Nelson M Martin

    Nelson M Martin LawnSite Member
    from Ontario
    Messages: 208

    You better checkout the width of t650 on specifications are listed at 72.9" for width
    The T770 is only 78" wide with the wide tracks
  5. ShadowCat

    ShadowCat LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 32

    Thanks Ron, that is good to know. Maybe I will refocus on getting a bushhog instead of the dozer blade and use the bucket as you note.
  6. ShadowCat

    ShadowCat LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 32

    I believe the T770 comes standard with wide tracks. The T650 has to add 10" if the wide tracks are put on, putting it at 83 inches which leave me less than an inch wiggle room as a result.
  7. ShadowCat

    ShadowCat LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 32

    I was impressed with the T590 as well. I demo the Cats Friday so it will be interesting!
  8. ShadowCat

    ShadowCat LawnSite Member
    from Florida
    Messages: 32

    You are the perfect person to ask... since you drove both the 289D as a rental and the 259D as noted above, does the 289D have a lot more umph even though they are rated same HP? I know a lot depends on hydraulics, but just curious if you felt a difference in power between the two.
  9. treemover

    treemover LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 418

    Well the one I demoed could not operate 45" Dutchman tree spade (3900lbs). It would lift up but the ass would come up and it would curl the tree spade. There may be a reason they started on a lifting dock and not from the ground
  10. anthonyp

    anthonyp LawnSite Member
    Messages: 95

    You had better be very aware of how the dealer responds to you after the sale….Either machine would be good , with a good dealer, one that treats you as you would want to be treated…I have had poor results with my Bobcat dealer, but excellent treatment from Kubota…Guess you can figure out where I will be buying my next piece from…..Tony

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