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Cavalier+ trailer

Discussion in 'Trucks and Trailers' started by michindi, Aug 18, 2004.

  1. michindi

    michindi LawnSite Member
    Messages: 98

    This is the 2nd time I have seen this in the past month... The one I saw today was at least a 2001 chevy cavalier pulling a small trailer. It had a side rack w/ a trimmer and an edger...The mower he has was a non commerical ridding mower...The kind you can buy at Home Depot. Has anybody eles seen anything like this??
  2. BSDeality

    BSDeality LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,849

    all the time. i had a guy approach me with a shitbox S10 with a utility box pulling a 5x8 trailer with a 38" murray rider on it after he cut the wheels to the curb and chocked the back ones he asked 'you doing this here account?' (i was there doing some landscaping, not the mowing.) i said nope. so he unloads; read "dropped" his mower off the trailer and proceeded to cut the place in 1st or 2nd gear on his murray. it must have taken him 2 hours to cut an acre. I figured it would only be a week or two before i got a call asking me to take over the account from the owner but while mowing last friday i saw him go by with not one, but two murrays on the trailer, evidently he hired one of his inbred friends to help him mow this 1+ acre place for a whopping $30. I guess he thinks he's makin money....
  3. michindi

    michindi LawnSite Member
    Messages: 98

    Its a wonder how these people get the jobs
  4. BSDeality

    BSDeality LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,849

    its people that don't care about the lawn, the cheaper the better (for them).
  5. rockandroller

    rockandroller LawnSite Member
    Messages: 121

    You guys are a little harsh!! Everyone's got to start somewhere. More power to em. If they're getting accounts they must be doing something right. This is my second year, 1st full time and I'm doing alright w my 4 banger, 5x8, and 2 commercial 21's. I won't upgrade until I absolutely have to.. I've got about 25 small accounts and no overhead...making good money. Growth will come in due time. Maybe this guy's got his sh.. together like I do.. You never know?
  6. BSDeality

    BSDeality LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,849

    ok, so you have "no overhead". lets role play here..

    you charge $25 an acre now cause you have no overhead to pay for.

    now, 2 years down the road you buy a new truck, trailer, bigger mowers, more efficient pieces of equipment, and you add a helper. suddenly you have $50K of 'overhead' plus the salary of a worker to pay for with your $25/acre yards.

    I don't mean to sound harsh, but its people that have no idea of what their overhead is or at least should model are screwing the industry. we're one of the only services industries where the prices have been going down! People come in do it for cheap, even at a similar quality level, but they go belly up in a season or two. then they screw the market.
  7. meathead1134

    meathead1134 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 637

    How about a 2002 elantra pulling a 5x8 foot tilt deck trailer with a JD GS45 on the back along with other goodies THATS ME. First year I've got to start somewhere.
  8. GreenMonster

    GreenMonster LawnSite Silver Member
    from NH
    Messages: 2,702

    At least you cutting with a quality mower.

    I do some landscape work for an Inn, but they use someone else to mow (too far away for me). I sent him a bill last week for a fence we installed, at my normal rate of $45/hr. He flipped and said his mowing guys charge him $15/hr.

    Well, I guess you can get there one of two ways.

    1. Run cheap equipment, thereby maintaining little to no overhead.
    2. Don't carry insurance, pay taxes, etc. In other words, don't operate legitimately.

    I didn't think to ask him why he didn't use his mowing guys for the fence installation....

    Funniest part is, I could probably mow the property 3x as fast, thereby equalizing our rates:D
  9. meathead1134

    meathead1134 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 637

    for my first year if I'm not averaging at least $30.00 and hour solo I am not happy
  10. jlewis

    jlewis LawnSite Member
    Messages: 140

    No overhead?? Taxes, Insurance, etc count as overhead. Does your auto insurance co. know you use your car to tow a mower for commercial business?

    Lets see..I had $200 to get a zoning variance to run a business from my house...roughly another $200 for the LLC...Liability runs about $400...Registration runs about $100 a year..Truck/trailer and tool insurance run $1000 a year...That does not count fuel, repairs, consumable parts (bits/blades etc) uniforms or taxes!

    Nobody ever said being legal was cheap, but if you have no overhead, you don't have your sh.. together.

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