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City putting me out of business! Seriously!

Discussion in 'Business Operations' started by lawnlandscape, Mar 27, 2012.

  1. lawnlandscape

    lawnlandscape LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 780

    Do you understand there is a difference between sales and profit?

    There is no way it will be possible to get a place suitable and move everything within a week.

    I have spent over $80,000 retrofitting my property to be able to handle my stuff. Including many repairs to the garage, adding heat and a gas line, ect.

    My company is extremely over extended right now expecially with the lack of a winter we just had.
  2. lawnlandscape

    lawnlandscape LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 780

    Then you have guys ALL OVER TOWN, with these types of things in their FRONT YARDS.

  3. lawnlandscape

    lawnlandscape LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 780

    More Examples:


  4. djagusch

    djagusch LawnSite Platinum Member
    from MN
    Messages: 4,345

    I would find a storage unit or secure out door storage for the time being.

    Seeing the pics of the house and others answers a lot. While your place looks clean, the garage area does not seem residential. Most likely the guys with the poor looking yards got complaints and called you out as you run a buisness also.

    I would snap some pictures, get some letters from the neighbors adjoining your property. Then go to the city admin stating your case and see if he has some suggestings.

    You might also ask if your employee takes a work vehicle/trailer home daily would the one truck in the driveway meet code. Think of a dish tv installer that brings the work van home (these typically are subcontractors also).
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    THEGOLDPRO LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,222

    Maybe you don't understand, It DOES NOT MATTER if you are selling things from your house or just storing equipment there. its all the same as far as they are concerned,

    The zoning laws here state this and im assuming its the same there.

    "There shall be no evidence of any office or home enterprise outside the building in which it is located,

    The office or home enterprise and the conduct thereof shall not impair the residential character of the premises, Nor impair the reasonable use.enjoyment and value of other residential property in the neighborhood".

    You are leaving vehicles and equipment outside which is impairing the residential value of the area. The reason for these laws is because i'm quite sure your neighbors and the other people on the street don't wanna see or hear your trucks/trailers every day when they are sleeping.

    I can tell you from experiance that this was not the city just picking on you SOMEONE called them and made a complaint, once a complaint is made the city has to look into it. So it doesn't matter how cool you are with the people around you someone called and made a stink about it. It might even be another local company that doesnt like you.
  6. XYZLawnPros

    XYZLawnPros LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 395

    This is what happens when you play by their rules. It looks as
    though you are a competent business owner. If you begged
    and pleaded for their licenses and their bullsh!t contracts you
    are required to do as those contracts state. Assuming you don't
    have standing title to your property also means you are trapped
    in their invisible contract. Rescind all of the contracts you have
    entered to get you to this controversy, then turn it all around on
    them. Sue each and every player civilly (judges, city attorneys,
    legislatures, everyone in the office where this gentleman came
    from, etc). Maybe if we all had a business that looks as competent
    as yours, and all of us started pushing back against this financial
    slavery, sh!t would change. Remember, ALL legal employees work
    for the same people. Your better off representing yourself if you go
    into a court.
  7. GMLC

    GMLC LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,345

    You spent 80k on your home property to support your business without checking to see if the city would allow you to operate from home? I guess you have no choice but to relocate now. It's one of those things that you can get away with until you get caught.
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  8. OakNut

    OakNut LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,104

    I had to get a home occupancy permit for operating a business from my home.

    There are rules one must play by - sort of like having insurance, this is one of the things you have to check into before starting a business.
    What "someone else" does is mostly irrelevant.
  9. Bunton Guy

    Bunton Guy LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,902

    I had the same thing. Built a shop at the house because zoning said it was ok and that as long as everything business wise is inside I would be ok. Neighbor still didn't like it and after building a $40,000 shop It was useless. Cound't use it because even when I moved all business matter away to make my neighbor happy and to stop his lawsuit. If I even went into the shop and made noise working on anything even personal he video taped the "noise" and took me back to court again and again getting me into more trouble with the county.
  10. landscaper22

    landscaper22 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 829

    Another fine example of what your "wonderful" government is doing for you! Some of you miss the point. It is one thing to move into a neighborhood with ordinances. It is a totally another issue when a government steps in and tells you that you are not allowed to park your vehicles on your property. I am sure there's a loophole somewhere. I would be on the phone with an attorney tomorrow morning. At least get a little advice, and you can figure out if you stand a chance. It may boil down to what will cost more your attorney fees, or compliance. Keep us updated!

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