I've ventured into fall leaf cleanup. In the past I only picked up the leaves for my mowing customers. This year I've invested in a leaf loader and done some advertising for fall leaf cleanup. First call - I get the job. Today I did the job with blowers, tarps, a little raking and the leaf loader. It took me 2 hours longer than I estimated. That is not a big problem - I'm new to this area of maintenance and I expect to spend a great deal of this fall learning the ropes. I didn't loose money, I just didn't make as much as I wanted to. It was my first time out with a leaf loader. It worked very well. I need some input though - when bidding on a job here's what I look at: 1. The size of the yard 2. How deep the leaves are 3. How easy will it be to get the leaves to the loader 4. "Guess" a fee from there based on an hourly rate. What I didn't look at/consider: 1. Did the home owner mow the grass before the leaves fell (long grass)? 2. How long have the leaves been on the ground? (I think that these were down since last year, it was very difficult to dislodge them from the long grass, and alot of them were black in color) 3. Type of trees (I found thousands of acorns under the leaves, I didn't pick them up - yet) 4. Pine needles take a lot longer to move than leaves do When I first started mowing estimating was my weak point. Now I get it right way more than I get it wrong. I suppose that leaf removal will be the same. How do you go about making an intelligent bid for leaf clean up? Can you add to my list of do's, don't's and considerations? Extra charge for nuts on the ground? Do you pick them up?