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Compaction strategy raised paver area

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Doing a big job where the lower section is retaining wall and 25x25 paver area. The top is 4” base and bottom is 22”, so about 10” average really.

it’s way in a backyard and down a bit of a hill. I do have a 17g excavator there now so with a chain I can move around a compactor, but want to be fairly efficient.
Basically need a machine that can cover 8” lifts if possible. Does anyone know what machine I can rent that can do that?

or should I just do a jumping Jack machine on the bottom 200’ sq where it’s the deep road base
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I didn’t take anything apart but did some diagnosis. They have solid pipe I think for gutters and perf pvc 2” below. It runs to ocean but king tide washed away 5’ of beach and probably blocked drainage now.
100’ snake didn’t fix it so have to find where it drains on beach.

when I pumped water out, the water level In clean out went down as I pumped it down, so the perimeter house drains are just backed up, nothing wrong behind wall, but it will fail without issue being fixed

my picture proves it’s perforated pipe as the level in clean out is 6” lower after I pumped it down
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my picture proves it’s perforated pipe as the level in clean out is 6” lower after I pumped it down
So now you get to charge for all this diagnostic work I hope?
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So now you get to charge for all this diagnostic work I hope?

Well I initially looking into it for the first day and didn't say anything, because I wanted to make sure it wasn't something we broke.

But now I am 99% sure his perimeter drains are backed up.

We did have to put 4" of road base on top of his gutter drain, just for a corner block, but we didn't damage the 3" PVC.

What happened on this job is I ordered europa block and then a week later they called and said they wont make europa unless we order 12 pallets, this job was 8. So had no choice but to accept the Silverado and take a 2k credit, Im going to tell them they don't get a discount on the block now.

I am disappointed in my supplier on this because I think the europa would have looked a bit better, the plain Silverado just looks too new.
Nevertheless, is there a pipe locating method to find where the pipe is blocked? The property isn't huge, like .35 acre and problem is on lower half.

We know the pipe drains straight towards the beach.

I know a camera could show where its blocked, but I want to know gps.
Nevertheless, is there a pipe locating method to find where the pipe is blocked? The property isn't huge, like .35 acre and problem is on lower half.

We know the pipe drains straight towards the beach.

I know a camera could show where its blocked, but I want to know gps.
Most of the pipe camera systems will have a signal that can be traced on the surface to locate them.
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What happened on this job is I ordered europa block and then a week later they called and said they wont make europa unless we order 12 pallets, this job was 8. So had no choice but to accept the Silverado and take a 2k credit, Im going to tell them they don't get a discount on the block now.
Ditto on what Knox said on the pipe camera systems. that has been my experience hiring private locators.

So do you still use the Europa? i don't know if it is just my local manufacturer, but the quality has just not been worth it. I don't think they sell enough of it down here to take it seriously. last time I did a Europa wall, it was like they threw the blocks in a tumbler for one or two turns and then put them on a pallet. A couple of chipped corners here and there, but definitely not "old world weathered block look" like they advertised and like what I had seen in years past.
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That was my last experience with Europa

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Yea those blocks don't look great. I used it once. I know they wont make the 3 piece wall system here anymore, europa is in short supply. I have seen some nice looking ones around town though and thought it would have gone better with my "old country" tumbled pavers. For $4 more per block, I just don't see myself really getting the requests on it considering we have to charge like $75-100/square foot for walls now anyway.

They definitely aren't complaining about my regular Silverado wall block, even though I am personally unhappy with my tolerances and how it turned out, though it looks good from about 15 feet away, its not really something people will focus on alot. They keep saying they are happy with everything.

Anyway I am going to spend 2 hours to dig a 24" trench along a 20 foot section of the beach first because the digging is easy and sandy. Then if the pipe isn't found I'll get the camera rooter if I can find one.
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Plumber said I saved major potential foundation damage. River been running 5 minutes
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The thing kind of just blasted open. Very satisfying. It was completely grown over with roots. Probably not working for a few years. It may not have made it until their basement but plumber thinks so. Either way the upper wall would have likely failed.
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Can you extend the pipe? Put a clean out in it? Maybe have it drain into gravel or ???
Can you extend the pipe? Put a clean out in it? Maybe have it drain into gravel or ???
Public beach. So it I guess just has to be kind of hidden
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