Congress hasn't extended H-2R program, 1st 1/2 of 2008 H-2B filled

Discussion in 'General Industry Discussions' started by bcg, Oct 11, 2007.

  1. bcg

    bcg LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Tx
    Messages: 1,865

    Congress has not extended the H-2R program that has allowed H-2B visa holders to return the last 3 years without counting against the 66k annual pool of H-2B workers. This has been a great program that has allowed businesses to more reliablely plan their labor needs and supply. I encourage all of you to contact your Seantors and Congressman to ask them that they take immediate action to extend this program. Without it, many businesses are going to have to make a choice between shutting their doors and using illegal labor, neither of which is especially appealing.
  2. LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 8,136

    mine wont be hearing from me.
  3. Charles Odell

    Charles Odell LawnSite Member
    Messages: 62

    Don't need 'em ,don't want'em
    Pay a decent wage and hire AMERICANS!!!:usflag:
  4. loom-gen

    loom-gen LawnSite Member
    Messages: 150

    I can't find Americans to work for $15. to start unless they're mexican americans.

    SDNCLAWNCARE LawnSite Member
    Messages: 232

    Hell Yes, What he said!:clapping:

    SDNCLAWNCARE LawnSite Member
    Messages: 232

    I can't believe that! What is wrong here? I feel the younger generation wants to sit around on their behinds. Go to college for 4-5 years, live off Mommy & Daddy. They need to find some motivation and cut some grass.
  7. Dunn's

    Dunn's LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,534

    Dude you know you pay $7.00 dollars an hour. SO quit lying. $15.00 an hour starting pay is what you make at the post office,or as a mechanic with technical degree, and electricians don't even make that much at first.

    So either fess up to what you really pay or shut up.

    $15 dollars an hour and can't get employee's:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

    We pay $9.00 an hour starting($11.00 with bonus starting out) and we always seem to be paying way more then their last lawn job when they apply.

    Just so you know $15.00 an hour is 32,000 a year and hardly any jobs start people off at that much now adays.
  8. Dunn's

    Dunn's LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,534

    I hope you choose the first one.

    SOUTHERNGREENSCAPES LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 763

    Sendem' all home for all i care. They helped start that downtrend in profit that a lot of guys are experiencing. So many guys out there in the industry that don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to quality and reputation, so they have to cut thier prices to beat the other guy. then they find out that they aren't making any money, so they look for cheap labor. Next thing you know, every amigo in the US is calling their brothers, sisters, cousins and dogs telling them they need to come to the US to work. If you can't afford American, then you don't need to be in business. it can only go so low before your out anyway.

    Thank You from your "save an American" Foundation
  10. Dunn's

    Dunn's LawnSite Bronze Member
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    “Are You Ready for Your Perp-Walk?”

    Reckless Hiring of Illegal Aliens

    Leads to Serious Federal Prison Time

    Dallas, TX – October 30, 2007 David Marlett, JD, CPA, and Executive Director of ProAmerica Companies, today broadcast a serious warning to all employers of illegal aliens and their professional consultants: federal felony convictions may be in your near future if you hire illegal aliens or conspire to assist the employer in the hiring of illegal aliens. “Every employer, accountant and attorney in America had better sit up and take notice, unless they want their kids visiting them in prison for a few years,” said Marlett.

    Saleem Khanani was an owner of a group of Florida retail stores, and David Portlock was his accountant. Khanani employed a significant number of illegal aliens at his stores and Portlock arranged Khanani’s business structure to help hide that fact. After a 2002 ICE raid, a federal grand jury indicted Khanani, Portlock and others on 71 counts for offenses relating to Khanani’s employment of illegal aliens and related failures to pay state and federal taxes. The government also sought the forfeiture of any assets the defendants had obtained through their crimes. At the trial, Khanani’s primary defense was that he merely employed undocumented workers, which rose to no higher than a misdemeanor offense. During the cross-examination of Portlock, he admitted that he believed Khanani employed the illegal aliens to gain a competitive advantage. The jury found that the defendants acted “knowingly” and “willfully” in the employment of the illegal aliens — meaning “voluntarily and intentionally…not because of mistake or accident…and with the intent to do something the law forbids.” Furthermore the defendants acted with “reckless disregard” that the employees were illegal aliens, and through such employment they “harbored and shielded” the illegal aliens, thus facilitating them remaining in the United States illegally. Khanani was sentenced to almost 6 years in federal prison, and Portlock to 2 years.

    In a ruling handed down just a few weeks ago, United States v. Khanani, 11th Cir., No. 05-11689 & 05-15014 (Oct. 2, 2007), the federal appellate court upheld the lower court, agreeing that the defendants’ actions encouraged or induced the illegal immigrants to reside in the United States or concealed or harbored them.

    Of enormous significance is the fact that what these defendants did is common-place throughout America today. Regardless of his reasons, an employer who knowingly employs an undocumented worker risks serious personal liability and penal consequences. In summary, Marlett said, “The fact that an employer suspects but doesn’t know for certain that an employee or job candidate lacked authorization to live and work in the United States is no defense. In such a case, an employer may be found to have been willfully blind or reckless as to the status of the employee or job candidate. Furthermore, an individual (such as the accountant in this case) who has access to relevant information and participates in a scheme to employ an undocumented worker and/or cover up his or her employment may also be facing serious time in federal prison, even if the individual is a mere employee.”
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