control of catails

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by LeoS818, Dec 11, 2001.

  1. LeoS818

    LeoS818 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 122

    Does anyone have a good way to control catails around ponds?
  2. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,497

    Are there alot of them?(broad area) Or, are they in more narow strips? One remedy would be to swab wand them with Roundup. This way, it wouldn't affect the water. You MAY want to post in the ponds forum. They may be able to help you further on this.
  3. morturf

    morturf LawnSite Senior Member
    from midwest
    Messages: 476

    There is a product made just for this......Rodeo. It is glyphosate without the surfactant. It seems that glyphosate alone is virtually non-toxic to aquatic animals, but the surfactant in Round-up is what will do the damage. There are quite a few studies done by the universities and the government to back this up....have posted a Yahoo search for you to browse

    good luck
  4. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,969

    Runner last post I praised you this post I will give you the devil cause you know better and were not thinking.

    Read the round up label. The label is the law. The A.I. in round up is Glyphosate Isoprogylaimine salt. (YEA I had to look it up to spell) Aquamaster has the same A.I. The differences is the adjuvants and surfactants that are added to this A.I. These addiatives make the difference of whether the chemical works or not in wetland conditions. Round up does not work on grass that is in standing water and aquamaster does.

    ROUND UP WILL KILL FISH AND AQUAMASTER WILL NOT. Round up label states that it should not even be sprayed in ditches that are dry to prevent run off to fish inhabited lakes. You will just have to call me "ricky round up" I have spray azillion gallon of it. I have read the label so many times I can resite in my sleep. In Fla. you need a agua lic to spray lakes. Aquamaster does a good job on catails but cost about $250.00 per 2 gallon jug Round up I buy for $90.00 a 2.5 gallon jug.
  5. And know for a bonus question.

    What was the previous name of Aquamaster?
  6. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,969

    Can I answer please please me me meeeeeeeeeeeee
  7. Runner

    Runner LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,497

    Ric, you are right, and right some more.:) I wasn't sure WHAT type of area he was in, and didn't know if there was runoff or not, let alone habitat. The law that applies to your state, is the same law that applies here, in this case. You must have an aquatic certification included in your license to be able to do this. And for the bonus question, what WAS the old name of Aquamaster?
  8. Foster

    Foster LawnSite Member
    Messages: 82

    Howdy, Rodeo works on cattails. The time of application is important. Fall is the only time I have been able to get Rodeo to work. Tried it in August to see if I could get the job 'out of the way' and ended up doing the job again.
  9. Ric

    Ric LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,969


    Rodeo is the old name for aquamaster. Yes catails are hard to kill and fall applys work better because they are dying out. A good apply in the spring on emerging catails will help keep them at bay. Good Luck
  10. Rodney Johns

    Rodney Johns LawnSite Member
    Messages: 121

    I have used........... I mean read somewhere that a product called Karmex (which used to be labled for ponds) might work well.
    Otherwise rodeo will do a great job.

    There is also a chemical called Eagre we sell a lot of for a pnd herbicide, although I have not tried it myself.

    The important thing to remember about any aquatic herb is that if you kill more than a third of the pond at one time you run the risk of killing fish from a lack of oxygen. So any aquatic herb can kill fish.

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