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copper pinch tool or maybe some help?

Discussion in 'Irrigation' started by woodlawnservice, Sep 7, 2013.

  1. woodlawnservice

    woodlawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 955

    Here we have a corp. Stop directly on the sadlle as stated... From there, there is no curb stop or shutoff till you get to the backside (homeowner) side of the meter... If we are installing a secondary meter and do not want to run a whole new saddle tap and corp stop we can split the main supply line and hook both meters up to the original supply line... Now all of this is inspected and approved by the city of course so they know exactly what has been done to the line.
  2. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,889

    Without a functional shutoff and you happen to have difficulty or a complication during the irragation meter install what is you plan of action ?
  3. NuLifeLawnCare

    NuLifeLawnCare LawnSite Member
    Messages: 57

    The corp is on the water main and should lead to the curb stop .If you are doing a cut in and cannot locate the curb stop. Freezing the line might your best bet. You may not have the time to wait for the city to find the curb stop. Most of the time they will have to key it for you to shut it off. This is different everywhere you go. I agree you should always have access to a shut off. I would recommend trying to see if the city would help you. They usually want to have a way to shut off the water as well. You Do not want to try to crimp the copper it will not come back. Any kink can actually cause it to wear through the copper..
  4. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,318

    There is nothing wrong with crimping as long as you use the right tools. Most DPW have a set either on their trucks or in their shop.

    I prefer freeze though.
  5. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,889

    I don't know maby I am a wuss... But I have a vision of crimping the copper pipe in this old house and only then discovering the pipe had mineral degradation and won't hold a crimp and running water with no way to stop it. Crap am I smart enough to feel stupid? I can hear my insurance adjuster now... Ok run this by me again you cut into the main line with out a functional what? I suppose you could keep crimping as long as you have enough lead pipe. Do those crimpers restore the I'D of the pipe ?
  6. Stillwater

    Stillwater LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,889

    Maby when the dpw guy is done making the crimp he could shut the water off.....lol....
  7. cjohn2000

    cjohn2000 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 570

    Know enough to be dangerous? :)

    7 P's
  8. woodlawnservice

    woodlawnservice LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 955

    We have no curb stops here....we only have a corp stop... And I know exactly where they are 05% of time and that's be my plan of action if something went wrong.... When freezing the lines what's the sinest and cheapest options our there? Do I have o buy a "kit" and tank and all? Ive never seen it done before but have herd about it.
  9. AI Inc

    AI Inc LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 27,007

    Solder your ball valve in the open position . Then close it and continue.
  10. 1idejim

    1idejim LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,318

    I wouldn't say that
    You do have a vivid imagination. :)
    Dunno, maybe we will know more when you and Garrett find a few Nodes in real world conditions.
    Vivid imagination at work again? Oh well.
    Why don't you ask the opinion of DPW guys in your area? Odds are they have either used them, gone through a training course in their use or seen them demoed.

    Personaly i wonder why all meters don't have built in stops?
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2013

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