Correct zero turning

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by Lawnalternatives, Aug 31, 2003.

  1. Lawnalternatives

    Lawnalternatives LawnSite Member
    Messages: 117

    I believe this question should be dedicated to the Exmark guy that I see responding so often. I have had a 36" Scag belt drive for the last three years. I have just purchased a 48" Lazer HP. Please give me instructions on the correct method of zero-turning with a rider. I know plenty of guys who have plenty of opinions, but everynow and then I still tear the turf.
  2. rodfather

    rodfather LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 9,501

    Do not try making a 180 degree turn like you might with a hydro WB...make a "K" style type turn with a Z to eliminate making a divot.
  3. MacLawnCo

    MacLawnCo LawnSite Bronze Member
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  4. rodfather

    rodfather LawnSite Fanatic
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  5. Lawnalternatives

    Lawnalternatives LawnSite Member
    Messages: 117

    Thanks guys. That is one of the versions I keep hearing. I will incorporate it soon.

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  6. Doc Pete

    Doc Pete LawnSite Gold Member
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    And, you can try what my friend has been doing for a while, and I’ve been trying, too. It may not be quite as efficient for “cutting the actual grass”, but it does offer two pluses. What we are doing is the following. We make one pass, then continue moving and make a wide 180 turn. Now make another pass leaving (approximately) a “cut width” of grass. We continue this until we reach the end of the property.
    Now we go back and repeat the procedure “wide turning” and cutting all the left behind strips of uncut grass.
    The final look is like a double wide mower, but still with nice stripping. The advantages are you don’t lose time stopping in the turns, and you never divot the grass. It works terrific for lawns that have wimpy grass, and demand a non-divoting cut.
    All and all, it seems to be a faster cut by not losing time turning the machine around.
  7. pinnacle

    pinnacle LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 791

    Anouther one to Try is durring your 180 turn have both wheels moving in opposit directions opposed to pivoting on one stoped wheel.

    Really all depends on the turf but all these methods work.
  8. Doc Pete

    Doc Pete LawnSite Gold Member
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    Rodfather is suggesting k turning because most of the newer ZTR's with wide tires and smaller wheelbases (48 and 52) will divot less than very strong grass if you try to "zero turn" it, which is what you are describing. Also, as I mentioned, zero turning and k turning is a time consuming process, especially on smaller lawns.
  9. Flex-Deck

    Flex-Deck LawnSite Silver Member
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    Modern Tractors can do the K turn and etc turns , and in fact the all wheel steers do a 180 without digging. I thought ZTR's were more maneuverable than that. :p :p
  10. 1grnlwn

    1grnlwn LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,261

    Yes and you will always do some damage. Even the best will lose concentration and foul up. It' s when you think you are good and stop checking that the real damage will show up.

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