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cought with red fuel

Discussion in 'Heavy Equipment & Pavement' started by gammon landscaping, Mar 7, 2006.

  1. gammon landscaping

    gammon landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 553

    ok i run the red fuel in my truck from time to time. i keep hearing people tell me it will cost you alot when the catch you ...

    so my question here is has anyone here ever been cought running the red fuel???

    and anyone else getting cought if you know about it first hand please.
    no my girlfriends cusin's boss' yard guy got cought stuff please....
  2. NEPSJay

    NEPSJay LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 492

    I run it in a coupleof trucks from time to time... no probs

    DUSTYCEDAR LawnSite Fanatic
    from PA
    Messages: 5,132

    here the dot will stop u and dip the tank

    UNISCAPER LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,426

    This is an IRS issue. Typically what they will do is look at the milage of the truck, and assuming you bought it new, they will fine you for the milage on the odometer unless you can prove you just put it in. I know of a person who had his entire business siezed and trucks auctioned off to pay back the fines. If you can prove the time you got caught was a mistake, or, show the exact point when you added red dye fuel, you can use that in court.
  5. olderthandirt

    olderthandirt LawnSite Platinum Member
    from here
    Messages: 4,899

    Yes I seen it done at a cattle auction. The farmers are the ones that have a big need for off rd fuel and they all go to the auctions. Left early and seen 5-6 trucks with the boot on the front tire and the state guys were working there way around the parking lot dipping diesels as they found them. I assumed they were state but did'nt feel like sticking around to find out.
  6. ksss

    ksss LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 7,162

    Uniscaper is right. I have heard that being done. I never use red fuel. Its not worth the hassle. Like shitting your pants everytime you see a DOT check point. When I bought my Sde Dump trailer, A buddy and I went to Billings, MT to pick it up. My buddy just bought the T800. We hit the 4 corners DOT port in Bozeman. For the next three hours we got a good old MT DOT rectal exam which included dipping our fuel tanks. They were black. The previous owner had mixed moter oil in with the diesel. DOT was sure we were covering up the red fuel. So they sent it to a LAB to be tested. Have I mentioned before how I hate DOT!
  7. emg35

    emg35 LawnSite Member
    from CA
    Messages: 18

    Got caught a few yrs ago, I don't actually use red dye. I have 2 5000 gal tanks 1 gas and 1 diesel. We actually record all the diesel as on road and off road and and pay accordingly. Anyway every few yrs I get audited and to make a long story short everything didn't add up on the off road side and bam $10,000 + what they considered as back taxes, interest etc. out the door.
  8. Scag48

    Scag48 LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 6,067

    A farmer I know got caught running off road in his flatbed semi running his fruit to the packing shed years back. Out here, the only real big chance of getting caught is in the fall during harvest as the State Patrol knows some of these farmers are cheap about running the correct fuel in their trucks. We are no where near a weigh station, that's how small the town is, but the State Patrol will pull a guy over and perform a random check. We have an offroad pump on the farm and if I absolutely need fuel in the Ford I'll throw some in, just enough to get me where I'm going though, I couldn't afford the fine. I guess my friend that got caught was stuck with a $10,000 fine.
  9. Boycea

    Boycea LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 451

    In my area its not only the DOT stops you have to worry about. I was at the mulch yard last year and the DOT cop pulled in and stuck all the supply yard trucks, and all the customers of the yard. It seems that in the last year they have really been cracking down with DOT laws.
  10. General Landscaping

    General Landscaping LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 801

    My family gets checked at the livestock market regularly.

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