Ok, before you get started it is not for me, or for commercial use. But I know a guy (no really I do) who wanted me to tell him what I thought of the newer Cub Cadet zforce. I know very little other than they sell for around 3k and MTD makes them. Do you all know much? What should I tell him. I already told him I would probley just buy a used commercial mower for 3k but as so many people do, he wants new. Any thoughts would be helpfull. Cheers!