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Deere 994r has arrived

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing Equipment' started by arl250, Jan 16, 2019.

  1. ztman

    ztman LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,367

    Wonder what they will actually end up selling for. The sticker on my 830a was $12,000 and the dealer was selling them for $7,500
     
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    arl250

    arl250 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,125

    I think sticker on this thing is actually 17 or 18k
     
  3. Wye Oak Tree

    Wye Oak Tree LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,741

    Looks nice.
    The engine is a bit exposed though. No cover for the top?
    I guess I'm too used to the giant cover on the 997's
     
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  4. tundraman

    tundraman LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,088

    Where is the savings with diesel running 80 cents more than gas? You will get more power out of 37 hp gas with about the same expense per hour as the diesel. Save 5k and get a gas mower. I see a purpose for a 997 but not this mower.
     
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    arl250

    arl250 LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,125

    I know exactly where you’re coming from there. One big thing I see would be if you already got a fuel tank on your truck and everything else is diesel then it’s more of a convenience factor than anything and you don’t have to pay quite the price of the 997 and also this mowers physical size is pretty much the same as the other 900 series mowers. There’s a few other things I’d like to check out but to me this mower I think will fit a lot of my needs in my operation. I do believe I’d hold off a while though and see how it holds up and if the bugs are worked out
     
  6. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
    Messages: 22,013

    The difference in price between off road diesel and gas is pretty close in most places. If you run everything on diesel, including your tow truck, then off road diesel is out of you plan or prefer to load up everything from one source. For those of us with gas tow rigs, off road diesel is a good option for our diesel equipment. I'd love to have one of these, but not at the prices they will actually sell for.
     
  7. Wye Oak Tree

    Wye Oak Tree LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 5,741

    Although diesel is more expensive you end up using less volume than gas.
    My 997 uses less gallons per day than my old 777 w/27 hp Kawasaki
     
  8. Mark Oomkes

    Mark Oomkes LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 19,058

    Do you have the torque ratings for each?

    HP means nothing, torque is where it's at. Especially since diesels generally hit peak torque at lower RPM's than gas.

    Way back when, I found that a liquid cooled gas would use approximately half the fuel a air cooled would. And a diesel would use approximately half the fuel a liquid cooled gas would. And it consistently had the power to mow through wet or long grass without bogging down.

    Either way, 37 HP is overkill for a 60" or even a 72" mower on a Z. Wasting fuel with an engine that size.
     
  9. UpNorthMowing

    UpNorthMowing LawnSite Fanatic
    from Ontario
    Messages: 16,675

    Looks like a awesome machine, but how many emission sensors, egr lines etc are going to be on that engine.

    That's what scares me about diesels now, the lack of simplicity.
     
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  10. Ridin' Green

    Ridin' Green LawnSite Fanatic
    Male, from Michigan
    Messages: 22,013

    I'm surprised that it is an indirect injection engine. Direct injected Yanmar's start much faster and use less fuel.
     

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