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demo I set up last night

Discussion in 'Landscape Lighting' started by TPnTX, Aug 14, 2008.

  1. TPnTX

    TPnTX LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,775

    Wow, its easy to do nice lighting when youre working with such exquisite landscape. Who is the landscaper on this job?

    Oh wait it's me. I only wish that I had put the wire in the ground when I did this job last June.

    Anyways I set this up for them last night and they loved it. I have to also install dimmers for the pavilion lights so they can blend everything together nicely.

    I think they will buy it.



  2. TPnTX

    TPnTX LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,775

    I not sure about the columns though. Those lights of course flood everything but since the are on a switch by themself I may be able to graze them while the light is dim. The fireplace and down lights in the pavilion alsl have a switch for each.
  3. klkanders

    klkanders LawnSite Senior Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 849

    Nice setting. One thing that caught my eye right away was all of the path lights are on the same side of the walk-way. If you want some input I would alternate them from side to side for a more natural look. Try it you will like it. If you don't want any input then nevermind. :) Also I would replace those coach lights with an up-down type of fixture like the Unique Chamberlain or the Vista ? that allows you in this case to use a smaller wattage lamp on the top then the bottom. And finally if you have an open budget some of those larger trees would look great with some up and down lighting. :) I hope you get the job!

  4. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,933

    I agree with Keith, our Orion or Chamberlain fixtures would be great lights to replace those coach lights with. My first option would be the Orion 9 or Orion 12, 120v. Then you can put as bright or as soft a lamp you want into it. If you go with an Orion 12 you will have an up and a down socket to use 2 lamps. The Orion 9 120v will have a single down socket. Same goes for the Chamberlain's. But I think the Weathered Brass look would be much better than the copper.

    Let me know if you have questions.

  5. TPnTX

    TPnTX LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,775

    oh no I am open to suggestions. Thats why I'm here actually. "use your resources" I always say.

    I agree with you on the path lights, however I also like seeing the creekbed. So thats why the aren't alternated. What I don't want to do ,for several reasons, is both creek and path lights unless the creek light can from a tree and not drown the path light. Before install I'll alternate those and see if I still get a decent amount of light for the creekbed.

    The thing is we had a large budget proposed. Lights, a bridge, more landscape. Some unexpected expense happened and it all got canned with the exception lights for the creek and pavilion landscape lights.

    The customers happens to love the fixtures on the columns. As a matter of fact the very first thing he did when I called him to come out was walk straight to the switch and turn them on. It got tense for a moment when it completely flooded the area. So I assured him that a dimmer switch would midigate the conflict and that is why I'm grazing only the corners for now. I won't know until I put in the dimmer.
    Not perfect but I think it will look fine.

    If I did change to an up and down fixture, that would illiminate the need for the up light, correct?
  6. TPnTX

    TPnTX LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,775

    lol he also turned on his porch lights immediately. I was like, "Hey! you can't do that"
  7. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,173

    I agree with Keith, instead of uplighting the columns, just replace them with a wall sconce that conceals the light source. I think it would give it a cleaner look. Downlight from the trees where you can instead of using the pathlights.
  8. Lite4

    Lite4 LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,173

    You need to go over the whole oncoming headlight analogy with the homeowner. When driving an a dark 2 lane road your eyes are always drawn to the brightest oncoming light and you can't see anything else regardless of how much you don't want to look at it. I always use that analogy with my clients who have those glare bombs and then I begin to see them nod their head in understanding. They usually go bye bye glare bomb.
  9. JoeyD

    JoeyD LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,933

    Tims suggestion of eliminating the pathlights and just down lighting a good one. With those trees pathlights should be unneccesary!
  10. Pro-Scapes

    Pro-Scapes LawnSite Platinum Member
    Messages: 4,180

    I agree on the paths. I would definatly try to downlight instead. I find light so much more apealing when I cant tell where its coming from in situations like this.

    Another way I have done a similar tree situation is to light the trees and allow that light to reflect back down on to the landscape. I created an archway of light with some trees over a walkway that was very inviting.

    on the scones. Thoes coach lights look a bit high so I would either try to lower the prewire or do a little drilling on the scone to move the bracket and lower it as much as I could. The orions are a nice fixture and would look great there. Im guessing orion 9's there possibly 12's if you got the room.

    Either way with as high as they are mounted you would need to lamp accordinging with the top and bottom facing lamps and use a clip and frosted lens for the bottom lamp. The orions come with a top frosted lens and a clear one but if you use the frosted top with out clipping a frosted on the bottom your colors will be noticably off.

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