I demoed a 44" Toro today. VERY damn impressed with it! It blows the clippings like nothing I have ever used. The lawns I used it on are normally bagged with my Walker. Blowing the clippings with the Dixon, I would have had to triple cut at least, the Toro had it looking GREAT in 1 pass, with very minimal double cutting needed. The vacuum of the deck was also very good. It does not cut as clean as a 48" Walker does, but what does LOL? Was not impressed with the Kohler POS engine. Luckily the 453 comes with a Kawi . My only question is this: how does the Turbo Force deck perform compared to the SFS? I have seen posts on here about a Toro deck doing a god awful job, but I believe that was not a Turbo Force. I honestly think I would prefer a Toro over a Grasshopper...anyone here run both? Which do you prefer? Should I buy one, I will be getting a Z453 23hp 52" with the 2 bag (exmark ultravac) bagger. Most likely will have to wait till spring though, as I have GOT to get a 32" WB first.