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Discussion in 'Landscape Architecture and Design' started by jdwilliams1, Oct 26, 2001.

  1. jdwilliams1

    jdwilliams1 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 97

    i am looking for something alittle more specific. I need to pick your brains. doing first decorative stone job, over mulch i just laid this spring. maybe you can answer a few questions for me.

    1. I usually charge $52 per yard of mulch installed and pay about $14. The stone my client wants will cost me about $30. I would think the added weight would make this a more difficult product to install, hence a larger markup. Am I correct?, possibly $80-$90 a yard?

    2. We have to use fabric, so, your best guess on a price per square foot on this product installed. I can get 3' x 100' for about $20. Minimal plantings in the bed. Also what fudge factor do you use for this product for overlaping. Lets say we are talking about 5,000 square feet, would you buy enough for 7,000 or 9,000???or what?

    3. Finally, how far do you space you staples or stakes.

  2. Stonehenge

    Stonehenge LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 1,276

    In answering your questions:

    1) I could see adding the change in cost plus a little to the price, but 80-90 would be more than we'd charge. We load all wheelbarrows with a skid loader bucket, so there really isn't much more effort involved.

    2) Depending on the project, I charge between $0.25-$.50 per sqft. Buy bigger rolls than 3x100. Overlap 4-6". Buy extra as you see fit.

    3) Space between stakes - varies by where seams fall, chance for stone to creep underneath fabric. Sometimes 6", sometimes 5'.
  3. captdevo

    captdevo LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 932

    Are you removing the mulch recently installed? If not, watch that you don't smother plants with the added depth.

    also, leaving the mulch then covering it with fabric you are asking for trouble with fungus and desease.

    mark up sounds good, considering cost and handling of the rock.

    why are you using fabric? is property irrigated? Fabric will retain alot of moisture, be careful.

    If the fabric is not readily available, i would fudge a little. You should be able to measure it pretty close and have minimal overlap.

    i usually mark-up materials 40-60% depending on my cost.

    Installation price varies on obtructions, plants, accessability, etc..... figure the amount of time you think it'll take you at your hourly rate.

    if i must use fabric (real dry area or as erosion or seepage deterrent) , i use very little staples to hold in place till topping is added (unless it's windy or i'm alone to help hold)

  4. jdwilliams1

    jdwilliams1 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 97

    how deep would you go initially w/ the river rock and to you figure coverage approximately the same way you do mulch?
  5. captdevo

    captdevo LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 932

    i would spread it 3-5" and figure the same as mulch, by cu. yds.

    length in feet x width in feet x depth in inches, then divide this by 324= cubic yards
  6. Stonehenge

    Stonehenge LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Midwest
    Messages: 1,276

    3-5 is a bit thicker than we'd go. 2-3" is typical for us.

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