Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by buckeyes04, Oct 27, 2004.

  1. buckeyes04

    buckeyes04 LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 21

    I feel some discouragement towards the business.

    I guess I just want to know that starting a lco business that it's going to be secure. I see so many lco's everyday and it makes me wonder if I can hang with the best of them. Altough I am starting out part time, I would love for it to go full time. Once you get customers do you tend to keep the same ones year after year? Then each year you add more and it keeps growing? I mean if it worked that easy than the job security would be there. Plus, I guess if you continue to market and advertise year after year you will become consistant. At least that's what you hope. Any word of advice or encourgement would be greatly appreciated.
  2. WigginsLandscaping

    WigginsLandscaping LawnSite Member
    Messages: 103

    My feeling on this issue is that some customers will come and go. I have customers that have been with me for sometime now and some that have disappeared. Good work, good consistent work will be what makes or breaks you. Keep your prices competitive and your work excellent and you'll be fine. I found that without alot more than i mentioned that my business grew in no time. Just let it grow and mature without rushing things. Good luck.
  3. out4now

    out4now LawnSite Bronze Member
    from AZ
    Messages: 1,796

    Read Rich Dad, Poor Dad or if you have little time get it on CD and listen while you drive. Business is risk. Managing the risk is what you want to do. No risk=no reward. The best thing to do is be efficient and keep hanging in there. The more business savy you are the more likely I think you are to succeed. Scrubs will always be there, nothing can really be done about it. They fall out all the time though. You can make it. Write out a business plan.You may find yourself modifing your operation from time to time. INvent some ways to drive the competition nuts. I read a book by a guy named Driving your competion crazy and it had some interesting points in it. I also had a class over the summer that a retired guy was teaching (he was in his 40's) and he said the way they got one up on their competitors was to change the process they used because the other guys could see that they had similar equipment and about the same amount of employees but what they could not see wa the process no matter how hard they looked they always looked right past it. He said the way that they screwed small competitors was to lower prices until their competitor had to be operating at a loss and then suddenly raise prices, flooding competitor with orders. The little guy so happy to finally have so many orders lost on evry single on ea nd each time he filled one stepped closer to bankruptcy. A month or two doen the line they would buy the little guy out for next to nothing. There are lots of guys here making it and you probably can too w/good work and fair(not cheap) pricing. jm.02
  4. buckeyes04

    buckeyes04 LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 21

    So I have to become a lowballer in order to make it in this industry? I say that with a little sarcasm, but that's kind of what your telling me. Lower prices until the smaller guy goes out of business and then raise prices. Well, I am that smaller guy trying to grow my business. I'm not in this to screw people over. I want to do fair and honest work. A smart person could have told me to lowball and then raise prices again. But why do that? It doesn't make for good business and I am not going to be one of those greedy, unprofessional, lco companys out there.
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  5. MMLawn

    MMLawn LawnSite Gold Member
    Messages: 3,569

    If that guy took credit for that then he lied, because all he taught you was the Wally World Model. What they do and all this was is a varation of that, is they start buying product X from XYZ Company and they slowly boost their orders to a level that X company drops all primary accts ect Wally. Then when they do that Wally says, uh we cannot continue paying a $1 a pc for that widget we will only now pay .75 for it and BAM X Company is stuck and must drop the price to Wally or go out of business.

    Buckeyes, no you do not have to lowball at all to gain business. Just give a fair price and quality work.
  6. buckeyes04

    buckeyes04 LawnSite Member
    from Ohio
    Messages: 21

    Thanks I appreciate it.
  7. JacobsLandscape

    JacobsLandscape LawnSite Member
    Messages: 2

    :) If you do honest, hardwork and give people the quality that they expect then good customers will come. You will lose some... but you may replace them with even better customers. I felt the same when I started last year but I always try to remember this....Do not work for nothing cause nothing pays the bills. Here is another...Work smarter not harder. I would much rather have 20 $40-$50 a week accounts than have 40-50 $20 accounts.

    Can I get an AMEN !!! :D
  8. Gravely_Man

    Gravely_Man LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,075

    In the perfect world you bid each job at the correct amount and you never lose clients. This means you just add new customers each year until you reach your saturation point but your quality is still at a very high level. Since this isn’t the perfect world you will lose some customers, hopefully the ones that are just switching to the “cheaper guy” and quality issues are not arising. You have to do a high quality job at an affordable price. Don’t give up and work hard.

  9. pfifla1

    pfifla1 LawnSite Member
    Messages: 45

    i think staying in the middle, showing up when you say, and keeping your head on straight you will be successful, recently i lost a few clients due to various reasons not stemming to me, and i do this part time while finnishing up my masters, so it was a good hit to me, but recieved 2 new clients this week, you will be fine as long as you know what you are doing, you cant start out as a big dog you get there over time.
  10. fga

    fga LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,449

    you are always going to lose some. for any reason. I've lost plenty over the years, some my fault, others not. If you are looking for stabilty, just have to know when to make certain decisions, when to step up, when to do extras...

    i once thought it was all about honesty and hardwork... then i realized how insane people can be, how they will with hold a nickle if you let them. I've been burned a few times after doing honest and good work. now i try and look at it more as a business, or atleast i'm trying (see current thread of mine..).

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