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Do you think snow piles around young trees stress/harm them?

hiringus

LawnSite Member
Has there been a debate over this before? Does snow piles up around the trunk for long periods of time harm a tree? How about snow mixed with salt/sand?
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Yotedinger

LawnSite Member
That is just ignorant.

The chloride WILL leach into the ground around the root crown, and the pressure of the snow getting pushed up on the tree WILL break or tear roots leaving vectors for other issues.

Granted, the Property owner never planned on those trees getting much bigger than they are in the photo, and will likely replace them in a year or two anyway dead or not.
It's still a stoopid practice if it is avoidable.
 

integrityman

LawnSite Bronze Member
Location
North West Ohio
That is just ignorant.

The chloride WILL leach into the ground around the root crown, and the pressure of the snow getting pushed up on the tree WILL break or tear roots leaving vectors for other issues.

Granted, the Property owner never planned on those trees getting much bigger than they are in the photo, and will likely replace them in a year or two anyway dead or not.
It's still a stoopid practice if it is avoidable.

As will lithium by products from the tires, volatile solvent bases from vehicles, detergents etc.
Yote- dont forget that chlorides are WIDELY used n the commercial fert industry. (Andersons specifically uses them as their primary binder.) That said, the snow itself should not hurt the tree. IMHO
 

Runner

LawnSite Fanatic
Location
Flint, Michigan
Chlorides ARE used in fertilization, but it s chlorides that are formulated for and dosed for those applications. By these pics, with the type of lot and setting, it could be a highly probable cause of sodium overdose. One factor that would make this unlikely though, is that the islands only hold so much, and are therefore limited with the capacity they can take of added piling of brine filled slush/snow.
 

Yotedinger

LawnSite Member
Thanks for all the feedback guys. Anyone use these theory's to try to push for snow removal?
Good luck with that.

Add up the cost of replacing trees every 3-5 years, and see how it compares to the cost of hauling the slop off over the same time period.
It's likely a wash.

If the groundkeep or service used for maint. is smart, they would be using young potted trees and rotate them out in the fall.;)

Maybe another avenue for ya...
 

Yotedinger

LawnSite Member
Chlorides ARE used in fertilization, but it s chlorides that are formulated for and dosed for those applications. By these pics, with the type of lot and setting, it could be a highly probable cause of sodium overdose. One factor that would make this unlikely though, is that the islands only hold so much, and are therefore limited with the capacity they can take of added piling of brine filled slush/snow.
Runner,
I'd agree with you but, but for one thing. That Chloride gets concentrated over a season as it gets piled with each application. No way around it, those trees have a bunch of glop to deal with, and there is no way they will mature anyway. Compaction of the soil and not enough breathing soil surface to feed the roots for long.
 

Yotedinger

LawnSite Member
Good luck with that.

Add up the cost of replacing trees every 3-5 years, and see how it compares to the cost of hauling the slop off over the same time period.
It's likely a wash.

If the groundkeep or service used for maint. is smart, they would be using young potted trees and rotate them out in the fall.;)

Maybe another avenue for ya...
A second idea for ya to sell.

Insurance liability, safety, and risk reduction.

Those piles obstruct drivers visibility of pedestrians and other vehicles...

It takes just one or two frivolous lawsuits, or one mangled run over Granny to jack your insurance rates to the moon, and I'll bet the business would get an insurance rate break if measures were made to reduce the risk.:D

Good luck man!
 
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