K, thats a large no. Glad to hear honestly, hopefully my local market is in agreement. Ive been doing hedges and lawns for 3 years now but this is my first year in leaf removal. Best customer kind if expects it cause the last guy would do it. I told her to contact a gutter cleaning company for gutters and blowing off roof. Thanks for the input, as a profession it seems like we are largely like minded on the issue so I'll stick to my guns and see what the local market response is for a little while.