Dog Urine Solution Requested

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by dave50kate, Mar 4, 2010.

  1. kirk1701

    kirk1701 LawnSite Gold Member
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    I was thinking the same thing.

    But reminds me of someone else on here who picks up the "still steaming crap" with his bare hand and hits the guy (owner) in the back of the head with the dog crap :drinkup:

    OMG that made me laugh, its on the forum here somewhere last summer.
  2. atouchofnature

    atouchofnature LawnSite Member
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    I have one particular customer who always has a lot of dog spots in her lawn, to the point that she has me reseed her back lawn every fall because it has thinned so badly.

    Last fall, I started using 1-2-3 Compost Tea from ICT Organics on my customers' lawns. The idea popped into my head one day that if the microbes in the ICT compost tea break down nitrogen that they might help with dog spots, so I mixed up a batch in my 2 gallon pump sprayer, I don't remember the exact amount of product, but I do remember that i mixed it as if I were going to spray 6,000 sq. ft. with the batch. I then sprayed the dog spotted areas very heavily (roughly 3/4 - 1 cup of mixed product per dog spot) with the product. By the next week they were green again. After that, I just kept a batch of it mixed up all the time and I sprayed all dog spots on all of my customers' lawns every week after mowing, and the results remained consistent. I calculated my cost to be around 12 - 15 cents per dog spot, or about $4.50 per sprayer full, which may be a little more expensive than reseeding it, and of course I am going to lose the income from reseeding the one lawn every fall, but it kept the lawns looking better. This year, I am going to mix it in a spray bottle and carry the bottle on the mower with me to save time.
  3. Kiril

    Kiril LawnSite Fanatic
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    That is an interesting manipulation of the N cycle. It still won't prevent the burn though.
  4. GrassStitcher

    GrassStitcher LawnSite Member
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    I have a new one - The Grass Stitcher, it disperses the ammonium and creates the ideal environment for grass seed germination (extra wide hole with loose soil around the rim) at the same time. Works awesome. Thumbs Up I'll be doing a how to video series this summer, I can't wait to tape that one.
  5. JoJo1990

    JoJo1990 LawnSite Member
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    Ammonia is a partial cause of the burn. Remember, dogs eat a very high protein diet. As the proteins break down they are excreted as a ammonia AND a high nitrogen source. This is also why if the dog has been drinking a lot of water and 'moves while they spray' you may notice areas that are a rich green color. You essentially had the dog fertilize that area.

    Most vets wont recommend pills or additives to change the urine PH. A garden hose to dilute the spot works bot only if it's right away and this of course is not practical.

    We ask the homeowner to consider making an area of the yard the 'potty' area. A simple mulch bed with some pea gravel or class 5 below for drainage works great. With some simple training, the dog can learn to use a specific area of the yard to do their business.

    Oh yeah, I'm the new guy!
  6. DA Quality Lawn & YS

    DA Quality Lawn & YS LawnSite Fanatic
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    Dave - hate to break it to ya, but if you continue to have dogs peeing in the yard, you will continue to have an injured lawn.

    You can have good dogs or a good lawn, but not both at the same time.
  7. Sweet Tater

    Sweet Tater LawnSite Silver Member
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    I heard on one of those dog shows on Discovery Channel, that feeding them tomato juice will help prevent pee spots. I personally dont know if its true or not, but if its a problem its worth a try
  8. dave50kate

    dave50kate LawnSite Member
    Messages: 27

    I figured it was fairly hopeless. Some good ideas came through, with a little impracticality. Although these lawns are clients, who's dogs I won't be training for them, encouraging them to use a pee area is a great idea.
    Compost teas might have merit, though I'll have to set up for it, currently I'm pretty inorganic. I like the reseeding the lawn idea the best, as it has the highest potential for making more money.
    The male dog vs. female dog I've heard both ways one or the other being worse. One of my clients has sibling std. poodles, both males. One kills the lawn the other doesn't.
  9. GrassStitcher

    GrassStitcher LawnSite Member
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    Your right!

    The reseeding is a money maker, you can stop on some interval (2 weeks) and do a dog spot repair service. You can market that to your customers and have yet another revenue stream.

    Also, you can be in the Grass Stitcher business, if the customer would rather do it themselves, more frequently, I have an affiliate program ( where you can buy wholesale and deliver it to them and make money that way.

    Sometimes a problem could be an opportunity??

    Good Luck

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