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Dollar General Bid ASAP

Discussion in 'Lawn Mowing' started by redoak77, Oct 11, 2005.

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  1. redoak77

    redoak77 LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 291

    I have the opportunity to bid on Lawn Maintenance for a new dollar general store that is going up in our town. It is pretty much my job as long as I’m not way off on the bid. I determined it to be about $30.00 a cut. That allows me to make a nice profit and it is pretty much a commercial minimum. I was just wondering how this stacks up to similar accounts you guys have. I have enclosed a diagram w/ the grass areas highlighted. I figure it is similar to mowing a gas station. There will probably be some 21inch work involved.

    The company also wants me to stop by two-three times a week to keep the parking lot picked up and the grass areas next to the road clean. This shouldn’t be a problem because I drive by it every day and it seems like this would be a good way to make some extra money. I don’t know how much to bid for this though so I could really use some input on this issue.

    Thank you for any and all advice.

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  2. Varsity L&G

    Varsity L&G LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 418

    I do not think I would stop by there 2 or 3 times a week for 30$. Seems like a large waste of time and resources your not going to get compensation for.

    I would go by there once a week and mow for 30$. large amounts of trash would be Extra billed in 30 minute increments of 27.50$ per half hour.
  3. topsites

    topsites LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 21,653

    Well I have a 30-dollar minimum now I charge commercial lots the SAME money I charge residential BUT:
    - I do NOT accept work or make deals with managers, supervisors or anyone except the Owner. Yes, I think a Dg could be franchised, thus I'd like to speak with the franchise owner and if that is NOT who got me into this in the first place, fuggedaboutit.
    - For the grass, if 30 dollars covers it, then 30 dollars it is, I'd say 30 dollars covers 30 minutes of azz-busting work (you really got to hump it).
    - For the lot pickups, 30 dollars as well.

    I have 2 Tuffy's stores AND the owner's home is my account as well... One of the Tuffy's is a VERY small lot, takes maybe 10-15 minutes, the other one is larger and takes 30 minutes. Since the owner has 3 accounts with me, I do each Tuffy's for 20 bucks (plus it came around at a time when my minimum was 20) but I also get paid CASH right when I'm done, from the register (I write them a receipt in return).

    So... Your choice, IF it's really on the way you might give them a cheaper than a $30 minimum rate (like if it takes 10-15 minutes, 30 is a bit outrageous but 20 wouldn't be THAT high) but I would NOT do the trash pickup / lot clearing for free.
    I mean, it might only take 5-10 minutes of machine-time, but I find out quickly this 5-10 minutes turns into 15-20 FAST when you count the time it takes to pull in / out, load / unload, AND collect the money (well if there's customers in line you MIGHT have to wait).
  4. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    Yep, you are about to get hosed on that deal.

    Trash is unreal at retail sites.
    You'll have to clean up 3 times a week.
    Then a forth time before and after you mow.
    The grassy areas will be full of trash to be removed, then the post mow hard surface cleanup.

    Better figure 5 man hours per week or negotiate other terms.
  5. GrassBustersLawn

    GrassBustersLawn LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 981

    Not to rain on your PARADE...BUT

    1.) That looks like ALOT of grass for $30.

    2.) You are not making "a nice profit" on a $30 job! If you think you are, you have not CORRECTLY calculated your expenses/overhead.

    3.) You'd have to pay me a WHOLE HELLUVA LOT to even put a 21" on my trailer, and even MORE to actually use it!

    4.) Make sure you get $30 each stop to pick up their trash.

    5.) Never let the client know you "go by there daily". Make them think that you are going out of your way every time you service them!

  6. o-so-n-so

    o-so-n-so LawnSite Bronze Member
    from Alabama
    Messages: 1,218

    Ask for twice as much $$$ and work up a contract to include everything they ask for. Seems to be a lot of work/liability for 30.00 a cut.

    JKOOPERS LawnSite Bronze Member
    Messages: 1,259

    i guess $30 for mow wouldnt be to bad , just for mowing. trash, edging and weeds is all extra . it looks like there is only about 12,000 sq ft of grass.
  8. Envy Lawn Service

    Envy Lawn Service LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 11,087

    He would be responsible for keeping up with over 36,000 sq ft of turf, beds and asphalt all combined. Plus I'm betting the trimming and edging is worth more than the mowing on that site.

    I'll stick to my guns on this one.

    Wouldn't take too long just to run over it with the mower.
    It's the rest of the job that would rip you a new one.

    ADLAWNCUTTERS LawnSite Member
    Messages: 191

    Charge them, if they want you to be the boy then they have to pay you. I would charge a min of 50.00 per time to pick up trash. If they say that is too much politely tell them if they want to save money pick up the trash themselves.I would charge a min of 75.00 to cut and trim each time. It might cost you 5.00 in gas just to drive and cut. My ztr wouldn't come off the trailer for 30.00 for a commercial place.
  10. GarPA

    GarPA LawnSite Silver Member
    from PA
    Messages: 2,585

    Not to rain on your parade, but even if there was NO trash, 30.00 is hardly a "nice profit". And as others said above, stopping there a few times a week will be nothing but a hassle and to include that in their 30.00 weekly charge is frankly ridicuous. We (and most in my area) wont drive a commercial mower off the trailer for less than 40.00. You could easily spend 1 manhour per week just to keep the trash picked up and disposed of
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