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Dormant Seeding: A Pictorial

Discussion in 'Turf Renovation' started by Smallaxe, Dec 6, 2012.

  1. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    I don't know if lawnsite let me repost the pix or not, but here we are with the old thread and the pix are on page 1... :)
  2. foreplease

    foreplease LawnSite Silver Member
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    Well, axe, I read every bit of this. Where are the pictures or description of results?

    What is difficult for me to imagine or accept is that this process seemingly gives us little or greatly reduced control over just which spots germinate. When I fix something it has to be all the way fixed and normally has to occur in some teams's off-season. One of the football fields here (one I do not work on) often broadcasts KBG and refers to it as dormant seeding. Occasionally they will use an Aeravator to seed. Seems to work well on their practice field anyway
  3. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    Not sure what you were asking about,,, but the results appeared 5 months later as green grass...

    There is generally another freeze/thaw cycle in the Spring which is why the grass that stayed green all Winter under the snow turns brown, before the ground thoroughly thaws out... So this sometimes works in the Spring as well... :)
  4. foreplease

    foreplease LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,062

    I meant that the process and thought behind it was thoroughly presented but that not a word about or photo of the typical results was included. It would have been helpful and interesting.
  5. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    As Riggle points out, pix of green grass is difficult to tell the difference of old vs. new... the photos of the pimply ground was the target... it showed the seed planting itself...

    When you are out and about this Fall see it for yourself,,, or if the snow comes before the ground freezes then watch for it in the Spring... You do better with pix than I... regardless I plan to broadcast seed for the winter after the final cleanup before snow... :)
  6. americanlawn

    americanlawn LawnSite Fanatic
    from midwest
    Messages: 5,954

    Midwest 2013 dormant seeding.

    We have about 50 of these lined up. Plan to seed November 11 - 27.

    1) Mow the areas short
    2) Spread the seed (mostly turf-type tall fescue, but some KBG)
    3) Then aerate the areas 3 - 6 times, depending.

  7. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,727

    Should work. What are the temps and soil temps?
    Do you plan to drag it to incorporate the seed--perhaps improve seed to soil contact? Maybe break up the cores?

    Its very difficult to determine which exact procedure works best in an overseed situation. Would you mind dragging part for comparison?

    What variety of seed? Do you plan to see any seed sprouting before January?
  8. Smallaxe

    Smallaxe LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 10,082

    I've never liked the holes in the lawns the following Spring from aerating this late in the season,,, but it seems more like tilling up the barren areas with that many passes... It would be easy to picture the difference with that much tilling in the "Before & After" pix that foreplease wanted... That would be fun for all of us to see and give us even better ideas of how to make it successful... :)

    I do the Dormant Seeding in areas that I didn't have time or water to renovate earlier in the Season... The nice thing about Dormant Seeding is that the seed can be broadcast on the surface, then,, it will plant itself, establish excellent soil contact on its own, and germinate naturally in the Spring when conditions are right...
  9. foreplease

    foreplease LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,062

    Here is an article that seems somewhat related to your pimpley ground theory. Frost heaving and the freeze thaw cycle is what I've always thought you meant. Same phenomenon that destroys our roads?

    Record snow and cold here. Hope everybody is hanging in there!
  10. RigglePLC

    RigglePLC LawnSite Fanatic
    Messages: 13,727

    Thanks, Fore. We are doing the best we can. No sign or sound of frost quakes. Seed sown on top of snow is doing fine--dormant--except that it now has 22 inches of additional snow on top of it.

    I wonder what the snowmold situation will be? This has to be tough on rye, poa and bentgrass.

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