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Dot said put numbers on truck

Discussion in 'Pesticide & Herbicide Application' started by GreatRiverLawnCareLLC, Oct 8, 2018.

  1. buttaluv

    buttaluv LawnSite Senior Member
    from MidWest
    Messages: 764

    That's crazy! It just gets into too much B.S.
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  2. dishboy

    dishboy LawnSite Fanatic
    from zone 6
    Messages: 7,460

    No you don't , show me the FMCA reg supporting your position . I drive suger beet trucks every winter. We cross the border all the time . We have e logs but we don't need them . Got stopped for border safety inspection last winter. Wanted see all the other paperwork. Guess what, they were not interested in logs.
  3. tdoeizreal

    tdoeizreal LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 671

    I highly doubt they are going to ask to see your records from the last year when you got stopped for an inspection. I think they are expected to just be kept in the office. Some states are different, but here ya go dishboy

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  4. tdoeizreal

    tdoeizreal LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 671

    The pic may be hard to read but it says

    In the FMCSR, Title 49 CFR, Part 395.8 establishes specific requirements and procedures for the maintenance of drivers’ records (logbooks) to document the number of hours on- and off-duty. The regulations also define specific requirements for the retention of these records. Again, there are numerous exceptions to these general requirements that modify or eliminate requirements to maintain a driver’s logbook. Verify individual state regulatory authorities to determine specific applicability of an exception.
  5. tdoeizreal

    tdoeizreal LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 671

    But yes, there are different requirements if you are traveling more than 100 miles outward.
  6. gcbailey

    gcbailey LawnSite Gold Member
    from WV
    Messages: 3,195

    We work in 2 states, WV/VA, have been told by DOT in both states that we DO NOT have to keep drivers logs or even mileage due to the fact that we stay within the 100 or 150 mile "as the crow flies" radius from our shop. We kept logs for years and did get a written summary from WV DOT stating that since we do not travel further than the radius we are not required to keep logs. Only stuff we worry about are fire extinguishers, triangles, med cards, haz mat insurance (due to gasoline in mowers/cans), and annual DOT inspection which for 1 ton trucks the state inspection is used in lieu of DOT inspection. Make sure all your lights work, and everything is up to snuff and it's nothing more than a hassle.
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  7. lawn king

    lawn king LawnSite Silver Member
    Messages: 2,668

    I was told by a Massachusetts dot cop that I don't need a a dot # unless I cross state lines to work? Truck is pro lettered with co phone # and town. also have health card.
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  8. tdoeizreal

    tdoeizreal LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 671

    Most lawn company's don't have to have dot numbers unless crossing state lines. Most rigs just aren't heavy enough. It's the interstate commerce where they get ya.
  9. Mizzou21

    Mizzou21 LawnSite Member
    from Kansas
    Messages: 132

    This isn't true. If you are driving a passenger car or most pickups even your GVWR will be under 10,000 LBS and your not labeled a Commercial Vehicle and aren't subject to DOT regulations.
  10. tdoeizreal

    tdoeizreal LawnSite Senior Member
    Messages: 671

    If you are using that vehicle for commercial purpose like picking up materials, running bids, picking up or taking parts to a crew, it’s a commercial vehicle. Don’t matter the size, truck or car. I have been through a 3 hour one on one inspection with a dot inspector at our shop. I’m going to go with what she told me and the paperwork she gave me. Maybe your state is different but I know I’m all the way legit if I get stopped in Ks or Mo. DOT sits at the state line just waiting.

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