https://www.dynascape.com http://www.drafix.com I've been looking at ProLandscape (2nd link) for a while and mostly interested in the CAD. The 3D stuff isn't where I think it should be like it is with Dynscape. Who has worked with these programs and what is your feedback? Anyone used both? Dynascape is a good bit of money more but the 3D stuff is really nice. What I don't know is how much time someone is spending at a computer to make it look that nice either. I don't have a lot of time to do those things vs using a basic CAD program and coloring in by hand.